Monday, April 24, 2006

shalom

From: Avrohom Klein [mailto:ak@ksh.name]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 8:36 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: shalom

Thank you for your nice letter recieved on Friday. I will Bli neder write you back shortly.
Kol Tuv.
Avrohom Klein
----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Klein
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 6:38 PM
Subject: RE: shalom

my phone number is 1-818-980-0235

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Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)
Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES
-----Original Message-----
From: Avrohom Klein [mailto:ak@ksh.name]
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Thursday, April 06, 2006

AIM Convo about the Schlussel Family

silverdata2000 (6:20:34 PM): hello reb klein
silverdata2000 (6:20:43 PM): i am looking for info on a family perhaps you can help?
I Am Rachack (6:30:32 PM): I can try
I Am Rachack (6:32:43 PM): Are you still there?
silverdata2000 (6:32:56 PM): yes
silverdata2000 (6:33:06 PM): i emailed you a while ago
silverdata2000 (6:33:18 PM): i am looking for information on schlissel
I Am Rachack (6:33:20 PM): Did we speak on we phone?
I Am Rachack (6:33:22 PM): oh
silverdata2000 (6:33:28 PM): or perhaps spelled schlussel
I Am Rachack (6:33:28 PM): I vaguely remember.
silverdata2000 (6:33:32 PM): one sec
silverdata2000 (6:34:20 PM): ok am back
silverdata2000 (6:34:31 PM): and the realtionship to a family called zilber
silverdata2000 (6:34:33 PM): or silber
silverdata2000 (6:35:01 PM): no we never spoke on teh phone only email
I Am Rachack (6:35:09 PM): Ok.
I Am Rachack (6:36:03 PM): Did I refer you to the Schlussel family in Los Angeles? They are the only thing I really know about the Schlussel family besides the fact that their patriarch was a dayan in Minkatch
silverdata2000 (6:36:22 PM): yes i know akiva in los angles
silverdata2000 (6:36:29 PM): he was cousins with my grandmother
silverdata2000 (6:36:37 PM): and i know teh dayan as well
I Am Rachack (6:36:51 PM): Then you know all that I know.
silverdata2000 (6:36:55 PM): he was amy great great grandfather
silverdata2000 (6:37:05 PM): but looking for how they are related to zilber or silber
I Am Rachack (6:37:17 PM): Sorry, I can't help you with that.
silverdata2000 (6:37:21 PM): ok
silverdata2000 (6:37:27 PM): do you know much about munkatch
I Am Rachack (6:37:32 PM): I would suggest sending any email to the Jewish Genealogical Society
silverdata2000 (6:37:38 PM): good idea
I Am Rachack (6:37:41 PM): I know very little
silverdata2000 (6:37:51 PM): they then send it to a bulletin board so many people can see?
silverdata2000 (6:37:56 PM): ok good luck
silverdata2000 (6:38:01 PM): and have a happy pesach
I Am Rachack (6:38:02 PM): you should probably email the Hungarian Special Intrest Group and the Rabbinical Special Intrest Group
I Am Rachack (6:38:11 PM): they have an email mailing list
silverdata2000 (6:38:14 PM): do you have their details?
I Am Rachack (6:38:26 PM): http://www.jewishgen.org
silverdata2000 (6:38:29 PM): ok
silverdata2000 (6:38:38 PM): grea
silverdata2000 (6:38:39 PM): did you riot in BP two nights ago?
I Am Rachack (6:38:58 PM): I don't live in Boro Park
I Am Rachack (6:39:14 PM): but I spoke to my cousin there and he said "I was there. It was fun." So I guess it was fun.
silverdata2000 (6:39:18 PM): where do you live
silverdata2000 (6:39:25 PM): i live in sydney australia
silverdata2000 (6:39:36 PM): but i lived in NY for many years
silverdata2000 (6:39:53 PM): you live in faltbush or w or upstate?
I Am Rachack (6:41:11 PM): I live in Los Angeles
silverdata2000 (6:41:17 PM): no way
silverdata2000 (6:41:20 PM): my wife is from la
silverdata2000 (6:41:27 PM): her parnets live on highland
silverdata2000 (6:41:32 PM): do you know it
I Am Rachack (6:41:35 PM): What's the last name?
silverdata2000 (6:41:37 PM): where do you davem?
silverdata2000 (6:41:38 PM): roth
silverdata2000 (6:41:46 PM): zalman roth is my father in law
I Am Rachack (6:42:06 PM): I actually live in Valley Village, not Los Angeles, but I LA is more famous.
I Am Rachack (6:42:15 PM): he's a plumber, right?
silverdata2000 (6:42:18 PM): i know teh valley as well
silverdata2000 (6:42:22 PM): we got married there
I Am Rachack (6:42:23 PM): my father knows him
silverdata2000 (6:42:23 PM): yes he is
silverdata2000 (6:42:33 PM): my wifes aunts all live in the valley
I Am Rachack (6:42:37 PM): my father used to work with him I think
I Am Rachack (6:42:41 PM): what's their names?
silverdata2000 (6:42:43 PM): what small world
silverdata2000 (6:42:46 PM): thats so funny
I Am Rachack (6:42:58 PM): I daven at Bais Midrash Torah HaShem, Rabbi Zvi Block's shul.
I Am Rachack (6:44:48 PM): Ok, I have to go learn Mishnayos before Ma'ariv soon, so is there anything else you'd like to discuss? You want to play more Jewish Geography?
silverdata2000 (6:45:16 PM): no more games
silverdata2000 (6:45:19 PM): better you learn
silverdata2000 (6:45:21 PM): all tehbest
I Am Rachack (6:45:34 PM): kol tuv
I Am Rachack (6:45:41 PM): have a kosher pesach
silverdata2000 (6:46:25 PM): you too
Auto response from I Am Rachack (6:46:25 PM): I am away from my computer right now.
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Wednesday, March 15, 2006

Klyachanovo

From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:52 PM
To: 'mzcsmrose@yahoo.com'
Cc: 'Steve Schwartz'
Subject: Klyachanovo

Steve Schwartz's email address is sschwartz@mail.com but you should be warned that he sometimes takes a few weeks (or even months!) to answer his emails, probably now especially because he's planning a chasuna for his son. The name of the town as you spelled it is Kliachanove other spelling that I have are Kleczanev (from Mr. Schwartz's Noember 24, 1996 letter) and Klyachanovo (found on the internet). The only information I really have about the town is that Reb Shlomo Mermelstein lived there and there were 17 children in his household including his own children and the children of his three wives from each of their previous marriages (like my grandfather). His middle wife was my great-grandmother Chaya Zlata Mermelstein nee Klein nee Friedman who was widowed from my great-grandfather R' Mordechai Klein. Chaya Zlata Friedman was the daughter of Eliezer Friedman and Devorah Eckstein. I have a Kabbala from my father's first cousin that she was a descendant of the Noam Elimelech. That doesn't say much because many people are miyuchis to the Noyam Elimelech, but it cant be an establishing factor to find out about her family. Do any of these names sound familiar to anything on your family tree or from any of your research?
Kol Tuv,
=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 1:11 PM
To: 'mzcsmrose@yahoo.com'
Subject: RE: The JewishGen Family Finder:

Ok. I'll try. How can I help? Have you looked at my site yet? http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins

Gut Shabbos,


=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Zev Rosenberg [mailto:JGJGFF@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:20 AM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: The JewishGen Family Finder:


- From : Zev Rosenberg, (researcher code 137777) mzcsmrose@yahoo.com
- To : Reuven Chaim Klein, (researcher code 106665)
- Subject : The JewishGen Family Finder:
=======================================================
My Family name is Friedman, I have information that my family lived in kliachanove. I would like to know if you could help me with soem research. Thanks.
=======================================================
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Friday, February 24, 2006

RE: Tziyun LeNefesh Tzvi

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 7:39 AM
To: 'Spielman, Chaim, ALABS'
Subject: RE: Tziyun LeNefesh Tzvi

Baruch Dayan HaEmes.


=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Spielman, Chaim, ALABS [mailto:cspielman@att.com]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:33 AM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: RE: Tziyun LeNefesh Tzvi

Reuven Chaim,

I am sorry to notify you that I just got up from the Shiva of my father,
Hareni Kaporas Neshmaso.

The sefer is out of print.


Chaim Spielman (Hi yim), CISSP-ISSAP
AT&T Labs, Security Center of Excellence
180 Park Avenue, Florham Park, NJ 07932
Shannon Labs, Room C169
Phone: 973-236-6328 email: cspielman@att.com
-----Original Message-----
From: R.C. Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 5:39 PM
To: Spielman, Chaim, ALABS
Subject: Tziyun LeNefesh Tzvi

A Bachur from my yeshiva's high school here in Los
Angeles approached me this week and asked me about the
sefer "Tziyun LeNefesh Tzvi" written by Rabbi
Mordechai Spielman. He saw it in a footnote to the
Artscroll translation of Kesubos. I told him that I
didn't know about the sefer, but that I was in touch
with you over the internet. He asked me to ask you how
he can get a hold of the sefer (i.e. where can he buy
it) and he wants to know more about the sefer.

Gut Shabbos,


--
=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
Head Webmaster
http://myhomeloancompany.com

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Sunday, February 12, 2006

Re: The Family Tree File (FTW Format)

-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Rosenshein [mailto:nrosen@total.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:00 AM
To: Reuven Chaim Klein
Subject: Re: The Family Tree File (FTW Format)


Let me tell you from experience (15 years of research, 4200 relatives)
that the best way to expand your knowledge and your family tree is
by building the tree horizontally.

The more you speak to people, the more relatives you will find who have
already done some work, or who know something or who know somebody who
has done some work.

I have gotten great information over the years, much of it from
unexpected sources. I am active online, I research the Yad Vashem
database, I speak to dozens of relatives, especially the older ones as
they will not be around forever, I write to many many possible leads,
I research seforim and books, and when I have to be a nudnik, then
so be it.

Those people that are actually interested and are willing to actually do
something useful are one in a hundred. But to find them takes a lot of
legwork....

good luck...keep me posted...

nr








Reuven Chaim Klein wrote:

> Money and Time are the two things that I don't have much of. Probably around
> Pesach time I will have more time to do things on the computer for a few
> weeks, but before and after, I barely have time to check my email. I have to
> think about this better before embarking on such a major prjoect, I hadn't
> realized what it would entail when I first proposed it. I think that my main
> goal right now is to spread my tree vertically rather than horizontally.
> Meaning, I'd like to find out more about my ansectors than about my distant
> cousins. I have a Kabala that my family is descendant from various prominent
> people, but I've yet to trace the exact root:
> Included in my father's side are Noam Elimelech, ReMa and Rav Sholom
> Shachna, TaZ and BaCh, etc... There's even an entire other side to my family
> tree, my maternal family, which I've never even started to look into yet.
> (My mom's father says that our family is somehow closely related to the
> Skverer Rebbe's, but he/we don't know exactly how, but I would like to.) I
> don't know.
>
> Gut Voch,
>
>
> =====
> Reuven Chaim Klein
> http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
> Vice President
> AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
>
> (Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei
> Shabbos.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan Rosenshein [mailto:nrosen@total.net]
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:35 PM
> To: Reuven Chaim Klein
> Subject: Re: The Family Tree File (FTW Format)
>
>
> shalom reuven,
>
> a project of this magnitude will require an investment of time on both
> our parts, perhaps money as well....I am willing. Are you?
>
> Having said that, let me say that my busy season starts now and ends in
> early May. So the time part may be postponed by necessity until then....
>
> Here are some thoughts.
>
> We have common elements on the greenberger, klein, appeldorf, beinhorn,
> rosenshein and other branches. However, were we to give up our own trees
> and merge our two trees into one common tree (the klein-rosenshein tree,
> for the sake of a simple name) I think we would then find that we have
> each inherited many non-relatives.
> What I suggest is as follows:
>
> 1- each keep our own tree and each keep adding to our own databases
> based on our best research abilities
>
> 2- develop or buy software that would permit us to periodically
> merge our two trees into one consolidated tree, which would then
> be uploaded to our web site. This "merging and uploading" process
> could be performed weekly, for example.
> Whether family tree maker 2006 could do this or not- I have no idea.
> I guess that in order to do such a process, we would somehow have to
> upload our files to the site in ftw format, so as not to lose the
> pictures that I have accumulated. We need to see if this idea makes
> sense because my ftw file is very large.
>
>
> 3- to clarify.....the consolidated tree would not itself be modified
> by anyone...only our individual trees would be worked on by you and i
> respectively. The consolidated tree would be used solely for the purpose
> of display online.
>
>
> 4- develop a way to incorporate confidentiality for living relatives
> in terms of birth years and/or other sensitive information.
>
>
> 5- develop a strategy for encouraging people to complete an online
> submission if they have additional information
>
>
> 6- I collect photos, stories, etc. as well as information. Hopefully,
> we can encourage submission of these types of materials as well.
>
>
>
> 7- Ultimately, I would like to publish some sort of book with our
> family information ...I guess this is a discussion in itself and
> not for this moment.....
>
>
> 8- In terms of formats for online family trees, I am no expert in this
> area. I do know that one of my distant relatives, eliyahu hershfeld, has
> his branch of our tree online, and you may have seen it. I dont think
> its the most user-friendly program that he is using, but he seems to
> think highly of it. Further research needed.
>
>
> 9-Before getting into the project, it would be good to determine
> how much annual time and money this project will cost.
> The gemara teaches us that he who prepares on erev shabbos is ready for
> shabbos. So, we should prepare ad=nd be ready with the required
> information so that we may, IY"H, proceed.
>
>
> so, those are my thoughts....look forward to hearing your thoughts....
>
> be well
>
>
> reb nosson
>
>
>
>
>
> Reuven Chaim Klein wrote:
>
>>I got Family Tree Maker 2006 last night and imported my family tree. You
>>and I merged some time ago, but you've probably done much more research
>>since then, I've added barely anything, so I'm sending you a copy of my
>>FTW file. You should please merge it with your own, and then send me
>>back the resulting file. One problem is that both of us spell names
>>differently, so we will have to figure how to work with that (i.e. you
>>write "Bear" and I write "Ber", etc...). I just archived my research
>>from 2005 (which pales in comparison to 2004) and I plan to re-do my
>>site sometime soon to be more family-tree oriented probably using one of
>>those two engines whichi I discussed with you before.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>Kol Tuv,
>>
>
> Reuven Chaim Klein
>
> http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
>
>>Vice President
>>AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add
>>|IM
>>>
> website!>)
>
>>
>>(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and
>>Motzei Shabbos.)
>
>
>
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Sunday, February 05, 2006

Re: Ackerman & Gross Families

-----Original Message-----
From: RACHEL BLONDER [mailto:blonder@verizon.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 7:25 AM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: Re: Ackerman & Gross Families

I Know Mr. Rosenshein, I emailed him too since I found yours and his email
correspondence at the same web site.
I thought that the information was yours, not his.
Thanks
Rachel.
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.C. Klein"
To: "RACHEL BLONDER" ;
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Ackerman & Gross Families


> That information is from a researcher who I'm sending
> this message to also. His name is Nosson Rosenschein.
>
> Gut Shabbos.
>
> --- RACHEL BLONDER wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I was searching the Jewishgen web site for Klein. In
>> the process I came across your web page. Although
>> your list of Klein's (my father's side of the
>> family) were not what I was looking for at the time,
>> I came across my mother side of the family which is
>> the Ackerman family. Most of the information I had
>> gotten years ago from Raizy Ackerman nee Weiss, and
>> from Chaim Yerucham Klein whose wife was an Ackerman
>> and so was his mother. Since you seem to be
>> connected closer to the Klein side, I was wondering
>> where did you get most of the Ackerman information.
>> One of the Ackerman great grandfathers was married
>> to a Fannie Gross, on your file it is ind00774. By
>> the way her Jewish name was Chaya Faige. She died in
>> 1916. Her Yahrtzeit is Rosh Chodesh Ta'mu'z. I would
>> like to know her mother's maiden name. Chaya Faige's
>> father was Yehuda Aryeh Gross and her mother was
>> Sara Rivka. Chaya Faige was my mother's great aunt.
>> Thank Your,
>> Rachel
>
>
>
> --
> =====
> Reuven Chaim Klein
> Head Webmaster
> http://myhomeloancompany.com
>
> --
>
>
>
>
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Thursday, January 26, 2006

RE: r' yaakov uri and the seidenfelds

From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:14 PM
To: 'HarvardDaughter@aol.com'
Subject: RE: r' yaakov uri and the seidenfelds

I have in my possession the 1985 Machon Yerushalayim print of the Sefer Shnos Chaim, it is currently out of print and copies of the sefer are pretty hard to come by. It was printed by Mrs. Sara Beinhorn nee Klein. She printed the sefer in memory of her late husband Naphtali Beinhorn, who was the grandson of Naphtoli Seidenfeld (through his daughter Shindel who married Rav Yichel Michel Beinhorn). In the preface to that print, she lists her relatives who were killed in the Holocaust and before and explains each one's relation to her and her husband. This is how I know about the Seidenfeld relation. Perhaps you would be better off asking Mrs. Beinhorn herself, she lives in Geulah Meah Shearim in Yerushalayim. I visited her last summer, and she seems glad to help people trying to research our family. I'm planning to scan all the genealogy related pages of the Shenos Chaim into the computer and after that I'll be able to send it to you. But I don't have time or the hardware ability to do that now. I am currently restructuring my genealogy website (http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins) so over the next few days things might disappear from the site until the new site is up and running, so I suggest you try to learn what you can from my site now. I'll try to help you IY"H Bli Neder as much as I can, but being in Yeshiva I don't have much time to work on the computer.
Have a Gut Shabbos,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)

From: HarvardDaughter@aol.com [mailto:HarvardDaughter@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:59 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: r' yaakov uri and the seidenfelds

Hi, My name is Yossi Seidenfeld, and I'm an einekil from the Dinover, through his son in law , R. Yaakov Uri. I am in contact with Moishe Miller and it seems that you supplied him with some information that I'm very interested in knowing. Would you be able to share some of your resources with me.
I'd like to know how we know the death date and burial place of Naftoli Seidenfeld, my elte zeide. Is there any documentation of his marriage to Rochel Leah Uri, or is it just family tradition.
I come from Naftoli's son Yeshaya. If you have any information about him, I would be very interested as well.
It seems you have a sefer, Shnos Chaim. I'd be interested in attaining a copy if it contains vital links to my family tree.
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Yossi Seidenfeld
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Wednesday, January 25, 2006

RE: A Town near Munkatch

From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 6:24 PM
To: 'Louis Schonfeld'
Subject: RE: A Town near Munkatch

Perhaps you can help me and Mr. Schabes contact each other via email. From what you said, I guess it is safe to assume that my grandfather's friend is no longer living (because you said he is a namesake).
I wish you a refuah shlaymah from all your medical issues.
Thank you,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)

From: Louis Schonfeld [mailto:ischon@adelphia.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:29 PM
To: 'Reuven Chaim Klein'
Subject: RE: A Town near Munkatch

Hi Reuven Chaim,

I learned from Herb Schabes that his namesake in the article is his uncle and he too has been looking to learn more about him. I should still be home throughout June, and I’y”H if it is medically advisable I shall travel to Eastern Europe and from there to Israel. While traveling you can email me at louster50@gmail.com

Best wishes,

Louis Schonfeld

From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:42 PM
To: 'Reuven Chaim Klein'; 'Louis Schonfeld'
Subject: RE: A Town near Munkatch

I look forward to working with you on this project more in June.

Thank you,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com

Vice President

AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)

From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 11:48 AM
To: 'Louis Schonfeld'
Subject: RE: A Town near Munkatch (2 files attached)

Thank you so much for your help. I already have a basic family tree somewhere on my website for my family. The URL is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins and a lot of information on that tree is not my own research but was compiled by another researcher who I met on the internet (through JewishGen).

I was also trying to find out about this Schabes person mentioned in the article, but I had no luck at all finding out anything about him. My mother (her maiden name was Messinger, and her mother's maiden name was Kohn) originally lived in Horne Saliby (sp) in Slovakia and then in Bratislava (Pudabest) before she moved to Boro Park in the late 70's or early 80's. I haven't really begun to look into that side of the family, yet.

Valley Village is just another name for North Hollywood used for real estate purposes. I live right around the corner from Wilkinson: I live on Chandler Blvd. between Wilkinson and Corteen. The Shul that my family goes to is run by Rabbi Zvi Block it is called Bais Midrash Toras HaShem (used to be Yeshivas Aish HaTorah until about ten years ago). Rabbi Sugarman who you mentioned moved to Eretz Yisroel two summers ago and periodically comes back to speak at Shaarei Tzedek. I actually did not attend Toras Emes for Elementary, rather I went to Emek Hebrew Academy. When I went to High School afterwards, I went to Yeshiva Gedolah of Los Angeles/Michael Diller High School (where Rabbi Eliezer Gross is the Rosh HaYeshiva) and when I was in ninth and tenth grade, my good friend Herschel Halberstam was in the Bais Midrash in YGLA (now he learns in Slabodka in Bnei Baraq). I am currently in First Year Bais Midrash in Yeshiva Gedolah of Los Angeles, and next year I plan to go elsewhere, possibly somewhere in Eretz Yisroel. Yeshiva begins again tomorrow morning, so afterwards I will only be able to check my email when I'm home (because I dorm in the city).

Again, thank you for all your help,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com

Vice President

AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)

From: Louis Schonfeld [mailto:ischon@adelphia.net]
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:43 AM
To: 'Reuven Chaim Klein'
Subject: RE: A Town near Munkatch (2 files attached)

Dear Reuven Chaim,

I will do what I can to assist you in your pursuit of this interesting challenge. I hope to be spending more time in Israel, I’y”H in the latter part of 2006 and onward. If so, I will do what I can, gratis to find out information about your grandfather from the CZA. I have also accumulated much documentary and anecdotal information about Munkacs and its Jewish inhabitants. I will henceforth pay attention when reviewing this information to see if I have any specific data on your grandfather. If I can provide you with helpful data that was unknown to you all I ask in return is that you provide me with a compiled family tree periodically.

In Beachwood (a suburb of Cleveland) I go to shul with Herb Schabes who is likely the son of Isadore since his family came from Vienna to the U.S. in the early 1940s. Perhaps he has documents from his father that include information about your GF. I am also friendly with two brothers who emigrated from the Kosice area a few years prior to the time your mother left. They are Moshe and Tibor Rosenberg and are distant relations to me. My family’s earliest venue in Hungary was Medzilaborce (now in Slovakia, due south of Stropkov). The first known name of Schonfeld in that area was Eliezer, father of Moshe Schonfeld, a son-in-law to the Bnei Yissaschar.

I too lived in North Hollywood for a few years on Wilkenson or Wilkerson Avenue and davened by Shaarey Tzedek (at that time led by Rabbi Sugarman). However, I am not familiar with Valley Village. I am not familiar with the Seforim you mentioned, but in the original version published in Munkacs is there a list of Pernumeranten (usually in the back of the sefer)? Rabbi Hershel Halberstam was the original Rav of Kehillas Atzei Chaim (prior to Rabbi H.H. move from his shul in the Pico area there was a smaller shul at that location led by Rabbi Deutsch). His son, the current Rav is Avrom Chaim.

Did you attend Toras Emes with Avrom Chaim’ son Tzvi? May I ask where you now attend school and what grade are you in. FYI I was born 1949 in Windsheim DP camp. I am married with B”H six children from the ages of twelve to thirty three, and have also Bli AYin Horah 10 grandchildren. I own nursing homes in Northeast Ohio which my children operate. When I am not at home I am traveling to Eastern Europe, mostly to Ukraine where I am involved in several commercial ventures including buying apartments in Kiev, renovating them and reselling. Several years ago, just because it was so inexpensive and convenient I bought a large three room apartment in Munkacs on the main street of the town about 5 buildings away from the famous Varoshasz (city hall) seen in several of the Vishniac photos. I had to slow down recently because of a detached Retina suffered in my left eye from which I am still recuperating. That’s enough for now. Stay in touch, be well and study hard.

Louis Schonfeld

From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:39 AM
To: 'Louis Schonfeld'
Subject: RE: A Town near Munkatch (2 files attached)

Dear Mr. Schonfeld,

I don't really have money to afford to hire a professional genealogist to research for me. So I guess that it out of the question for now.

Regarding my grandfather: He passed away when my father was only 7 years old, so very little is known in my family about his life. All we had pertaining to him was a postcard (from 1941) from a newsclipping service that said that he was mentioned in the New York Times. After some online research, I was able to find that article, and I have attached it in PDF format in this message. I also know that my grandfather was in the US Army, but when I sent the NARA a request for his records, they sent me back a letter that his records were burned in a fire and that they only had a temporary incomplete record, and they sent that. It was only a certificate which verified that he actually was in the US Army (I attached the scanned version of that certificate also).

I do know that the Jewish Agency for Palestine changed its name to the Jewish Agency for Israel following the establishment of the Medinah. I actually went to the Holy Land this past summer, and tried to get to the Central Zionist Archives during the hours perscribed by the CZA's website (across the street from the Binyanei HaUmah, near the Central Bus Station), but it was all locked up with security guards not letting anyone in. Later that day, we called the phone number on the website and it told us that the CZA was closed for the summer. So I had no luck over there. Even before that, I sent emails to people in the agency and CZA and no one was able/willing to help me.

My family was not in Los Angeles during the 70's. My father moved here in the early 80's when he was still single. My mother emigrated from Slovakia around the same time, and they got married in 1985. We actually live in a suburb of Los Angeles, known as Valley Village (North Hollywood), but I go to Yeshiva in Los Angeles. However, if the Rabbi Halberstam I know in the City is the same one who you davened by, he is a Satmar Rav in the city with a shul called Atzei Chaim and he had a son Tzvi/Herschle who was in the same Yeshiva as I was. There are quite a few Munkatch families in Los Angeles, including the famed Schlussels who are descendants of Nuta Nosson the dayan of Munkatch.

Perhaps, since you seem to be so acquainted with Munkatch, you have heard of my ggg-grandfather, Reuven Chaim Klein the Mechaber of the sefer Shenos Chaim, a biuer on the Rabbenu Yerucham's Toldos Adom V'Chava. I'm also looking for information about my family from that time period. From what I know (from the 1985 print of the Sefer, Machon Yerushalayim), the Shenos Chaim was a descendant of the TaZ and ReMa. I also have a kabbala from a cousin of my father that my great-grandmother, Chaya Zlata Friedman (who married my g-grandfather Mordechai Klein, and then my grandfather's step-father Shlomo Mermelstein) was a descendant of the Noam Elimelech. I'm trying to trace the genealogy of that line also.

Thank you for all your help, have a Freilichin Chanuka, gut Chodesh, (and a happy new year),

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com

Vice President

AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)

From: Louis Schonfeld [mailto:ischon@adelphia.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 5:59 PM
To: 'Reuven Chaim Klein'
Subject: RE: A Town near Munkatch

Hi Reuven Chaim Klein,

I can refer you to a professional genealogist specializing in researching the Jewish communities and families of Subcarpathian Ruthenia. I must admit I have never heard of the village in question and I can only assume that you have already determined the current name and correct spelling of the town. The listing of birth, deaths and marriages for the town would be found in the district ZAGS office located in Munkachevo and another copy in the regional archives office in Uzhgorod. Many of the books listing births, deaths, marriages according to government requirements that began in 1851 are still extant and possibly available. However, others (called Metrical books) have been lost or destroyed over the years.

In addition to metrical information that might be available there are also the regional archives, also located in Uzhgorod which contain historical information about events and people throughout the region. Information of historical interest would have been preserved and should be in those archives. The documents stored there would have information about both Jewish and non-Jewish communities. Access to the archives in that region is nearly impossible for a non-Ukrainian, and even very difficult for authorized Ukrainian researchers. Even without knowing the precise location of Kleczanev I can say with a great degree of certainty that no written information would be found in the village. However, if there is a city hall it would be worthwhile for the researcher to visit there and discuss with the mayor what might be available. Perhaps some documents could have been preserved in the local church.

I am confused about something you wrote: was your grandfather in Vienna during the Anschluss in 1938? If he was in the Carpathian area throughout the entire period the Gestapo did not have a presence their until Germany invaded Hungary in April of 1944. Do you have a copy of the New York Times article you mention? If so could you scan it and send it to me as attachment to an email?

One final suggestion. It would be most likely to find information about your grandfather’s involvement with the JAP by researching the appropriate files in Israel, either at the Central Zionist Archives or perhaps there is also a Jewish Agency archive. There are a number of Israeli researchers who could do this for you.

I lived in Los Angeles from 1957 through 1978, most of the time on Blackburn Ave near La Cienega. We davened by Rabbi Halberstam during that period. Has your family been in Los Angeles during this time? If so, which Klein family are you? There was one Klein family from Munkacs who also davened by Rabbi Halberstam, but I recall that he had only a daughter.

Good luck,

Louis Schonfeld

From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 6:24 PM
To: ischon@adelphia.net
Subject: A Town near Munkatch

Hello. My name is Reuven Chaim Klein and I live in Los Angeles, CA. I am trying to research my family history. My grandfather (whose name was Reuven Chaim Klein, he passed away in 1968) grew up in the town of Klyachanovo (Kleczanev) near the city of Mukacheve (Munkács). His father's name was Mordechai Klein, but his father passwd away while he was very young and so he was raised by his step-father Shlomo Mermelstein and his mother Chaya Zlata Mermelstein nee Klein nee Friedman. I am looking for more information about the Jewish community in Kleczanev to see if they can have more information about my grandfather. He was mysteriously released from jail three times by the Gestapo after the Germans invaded Austria and an article from the New York Times (June 23, 1941) states that the reason was because he was employed by the Jewish Agency for Palestine in Vienna and his services were needed. If possible, I'd like to find out what was the nature of his employment for the JAP and if there are any references to my family anywhere near Kleczanev form which I can get more information. Perhaps you know of someone who can help me on this quest or you know how I can go about finding more information.

I found your email address while searching the name of the town in Google.

Thank you for your help,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein

AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)

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Sunday, January 01, 2006

The Restored Archives of the Klein Family Genealogical Webpage from the Year 2005

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 7:52 AM
To: 'Yoav Eshel'
Subject: RE: Klein relatives originally from Munkacs (Mukachevo) or Hrusovo (Slovakia) ?

As I stated in my other email to you, I am the son of Michael Klein. All of what you see (i.e. everything on the domain myhomeloancompany.com) is my doing, he barely touches a computer. The genealogy research is all mine, In my research I have never found a Brandel Berta Klein that was related to me. Sorry I can't be of more help.

Gut Shabbos,
=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Yoav Eshel [mailto:yeshel@DSLabs.com]
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 6:15 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: RE: Klein relatives originally from Munkacs (Mukachevo) or Hrusovo (Slovakia) ?


Thank you very much for your reply. Let me ask you something else: I found this link: www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/backup.html via google and it says "Abraham Peres AXELRAD b. 1898 Rosvigovo, son of Chaim AXELRAD & Berta/Bella Klein..." etc.
Now, as I mentioned , this sentence is taken from an e-mail written by Linda Cohen from Michigan, USA and it was mailed to you...Unfortunately, that link is not available anymore and I could only reach the home page www.myhomeloancompany.com
Abraham Peres Axlerad is my late grandfather and he was married to Brandel Berta Klein, my late grandmother.

Inside that web site, I found the name Michael Klein as one of the owners of that site and loan business.
I have a feeling that this guy is a family relative because my mother recall that at least one brother of her mother Brandel, if not two of them, immigrated to the US before WWII. As I understood, you designed that web page, right ? If this is correct, you must know this fellow Michael Klein. Do you have his e-mail address and maybe you know more about his family (father, grandfather, etc.) ?

Thanks again for your cooperation and SHABAT SHALOM.

Regards,
Yoav Eshel

_____

From: R.C. Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Thu 8/25/2005 3:46 PM
To: Yoav Eshel
Subject: RE: Klein relatives originally from Munkacs (Mukachevo) or Hrusovo (Slovakia) ?


First of all, I'm not a Rav.

As far as I can see, my roots are from the towns of Kleczanev and Davidoff which are near Munkacs and Munkanz itself. Further into history, my family comes from Wolbrom in Poland.

Kol Tuv (PS. Sorry for not writing a post-salutation in my previous, but I was trying to answer all my emails that I received while on vacation to Israel for 2.5 weeks and thought there would be no point in saying the same thing to you in two emails)



=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Yoav Eshel [mailto:yeshel@DSLabs.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:14 AM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: Klein relatives originally from Munkacs (Mukachevo) or Hrusovo (Slovakia) ?



Reuven Chaim Shalom Rav,



I am looking for family relatives by the name of Klein from the villages mentioned above. I know that you had a connection with Mrs. Linda Cohen (Katz) from Michigan, USA and I also contact with her with regards to my 2nd part of my family, Axelrad. I wonder if your roots are by chance from those villages. My grandmother was Brandel Berta Klien and my great grandmother is Bajle Klein (born in Hrusovo), both married with Axelrad.



Thank you very much for your time.



Best regards,

Yoav Eshel

Yavne

Israel

yeshel@dslabs.com

From: Yoav Eshel [yeshel@DSLabs.com]
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 6:15 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: RE: Klein relatives originally from Munkacs (Mukachevo) or Hrusovo (Slovakia) ?

Thank you very much for your reply. Let me ask you something else: I found this link: www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/backup.html via google and it says "Abraham Peres AXELRAD b. 1898 Rosvigovo, son of Chaim AXELRAD & Berta/Bella Klein..." etc.
Now, as I mentioned , this sentence is taken from an e-mail written by Linda Cohen from Michigan, USA and it was mailed to you...Unfortunately, that link is not available anymore and I could only reach the home page www.myhomeloancompany.com
Abraham Peres Axlerad is my late grandfather and he was married to Brandel Berta Klein, my late grandmother.

Inside that web site, I found the name Michael Klein as one of the owners of that site and loan business.
I have a feeling that this guy is a family relative because my mother recall that at least one brother of her mother Brandel, if not two of them, immigrated to the US before WWII. As I understood, you designed that web page, right ? If this is correct, you must know this fellow Michael Klein. Do you have his e-mail address and maybe you know more about his family (father, grandfather, etc.) ?

Thanks again for your cooperation and SHABAT SHALOM.

Regards,
Yoav Eshel

_____

From: R.C. Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Thu 8/25/2005 3:46 PM
To: Yoav Eshel
Subject: RE: Klein relatives originally from Munkacs (Mukachevo) or Hrusovo (Slovakia) ?


First of all, I'm not a Rav.

As far as I can see, my roots are from the towns of Kleczanev and Davidoff which are near Munkacs and Munkanz itself. Further into history, my family comes from Wolbrom in Poland.

Kol Tuv (PS. Sorry for not writing a post-salutation in my previous, but I was trying to answer all my emails that I received while on vacation to Israel for 2.5 weeks and thought there would be no point in saying the same thing to you in two emails)


=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Yoav Eshel [mailto:yeshel@DSLabs.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:14 AM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: Klein relatives originally from Munkacs (Mukachevo) or Hrusovo (Slovakia) ?



Reuven Chaim Shalom Rav,



I am looking for family relatives by the name of Klein from the villages mentioned above. I know that you had a connection with Mrs. Linda Cohen (Katz) from Michigan, USA and I also contact with her with regards to my 2nd part of my family, Axelrad. I wonder if your roots are by chance from those villages. My grandmother was Brandel Berta Klien and my great grandmother is Bajle Klein (born in Hrusovo), both married with Axelrad.



Thank you very much for your time.



Best regards,

Yoav Eshel

Yavne

Israel

yeshel@dslabs.com

From: kleinboys [kleinboys@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:57 PM
To: 'Nathan Rosenshein'
Subject: RE: genealogy

I don't really have that kind of information, but I'll forward this email to some people who I think would have that information and I'll tell them to get back to you.

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Rosenshein [mailto:nrosen@total.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:56 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: genealogy



dear reb reuven chaim...

pls supply some further info on
the following people...


reuven chaim klein
born 1907-1917
munkacs area?
son of moshe ezriel

this reuven chaim's son was tzvi dov
born 1930-1940 range,
place unknown

what info do u have on the above people in terms
of dates of birth, marriage, death
places of birth , marriage, death,
names of spouses, children, etc.

these are on both our family trees as they are
relatives of our relatives

thanks

nr








From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:46 PM
To: 'Yoav Eshel'
Subject: RE: Klein relatives originally from Munkacs (Mukachevo) or Hrusovo (Slovakia) ?

First of all, I'm not a Rav.

As far as I can see, my roots are from the towns of Kleczanev and Davidoff which are near Munkacs and Munkanz itself. Further into history, my family comes from Wolbrom in Poland.

Kol Tuv (PS. Sorry for not writing a post-salutation in my previous, but I was trying to answer all my emails that I received while on vacation to Israel for 2.5 weeks and thought there would be no point in saying the same thing to you in two emails)


=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Yoav Eshel [mailto:yeshel@DSLabs.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:14 AM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: Klein relatives originally from Munkacs (Mukachevo) or Hrusovo (Slovakia) ?



Reuven Chaim Shalom Rav,



I am looking for family relatives by the name of Klein from the villages mentioned above. I know that you had a connection with Mrs. Linda Cohen (Katz) from Michigan, USA and I also contact with her with regards to my 2nd part of my family, Axelrad. I wonder if your roots are by chance from those villages. My grandmother was Brandel Berta Klien and my great grandmother is Bajle Klein (born in Hrusovo), both married with Axelrad.



Thank you very much for your time.



Best regards,

Yoav Eshel

Yavne

Israel

yeshel@dslabs.com

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:41 PM
To: 'Yoav Eshel'
Subject: RE: Possible relatives of the Klein family ?

I actually run this website for me father, so this isn't Michael answering, but rather his son. The page you found is now part of the 2003-2004 Archives on the Klein Family Genealogical Webpage. If you go to http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/backup.html and search (CTRL+F) for "TITLE: EKSTEIN post on Jewishgen" you will see an email which I received from someone regarding your family. According to my research there is no connection to my family. Now to respond to your other email...

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: Yoav Eshel [mailto:yeshel@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 11:26 PM
To: admin@myhomeloancompany.com
Subject: Possible relatives of the Klein family ?


Dear Michael,



I came across your site while I was looking for any Klein relatives
originally from Munkacs, Czechoslowakia (today, Mukachevo Ukraine). I found
this sentence: “Also..... Abraham Peres AXELRAD b. 1898 Rosvigovo, son of
Chaim AXELRAD & Berta/Bella KLEIN married…” via your web site:
www.myhomeloancompany.com/ kleins/archive/2004_12_12_archive.html - 32k

Unfortunately, there is no access to this specific address but only to
www.myhomeloancompany.com

Abraham Peres Axelrad is my late grandfather and he was married to the late
Brandel Berta Klein.

I wonder if you have more information on my late grandfather & grandmother
and also about the Klein family from Munkacs?

I know that three brothers of Brandel immigrated to the states just before
world was II, but there is no further information on them. Are you part of
this family ?



Thank you very much for your time & attention.



Best regards,

Yoav Eshel

Yavne,

Israel

From: Yossi Klein [kleinyossi@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:18 AM
To: Reuven Klein
Subject: Family Tree

Corrections to Steve's family tree. (I had sent these
to him a long while back, but he didn't update the
tree. Perhaps, he'll do it if you tell him).

My father died in 1968 (not in 1967).
My name is spelled Yossi (not Yussie).
Meira was born in 1994
Yonina was born in 1999.
My wife's name is Debra (not Deborah).
Debra was born in 1964.
If Yonina is Yonina Chagit and Meira is Meira Leah,
then Reuven should be Reuven Chaim.

Love,
UY

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From: Yoav Eshel [yeshel@DSLabs.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:14 AM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: Klein relatives originally from Munkacs (Mukachevo) or Hrusovo (Slovakia) ?

Reuven Chaim Shalom Rav,



I am looking for family relatives by the name of Klein from the villages mentioned above. I know that you had a connection with Mrs. Linda Cohen (Katz) from Michigan, USA and I also contact with her with regards to my 2nd part of my family, Axelrad. I wonder if your roots are by chance from those villages. My grandmother was Brandel Berta Klien and my great grandmother is Bajle Klein (born in Hrusovo), both married with Axelrad.



Thank you very much for your time.



Best regards,

Yoav Eshel

Yavne

Israel

yeshel@dslabs.com

From: Nathan Rosenshein [nrosen@total.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:56 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: genealogy


dear reb reuven chaim...

pls supply some further info on
the following people...


reuven chaim klein
born 1907-1917
munkacs area?
son of moshe ezriel

this reuven chaim's son was tzvi dov
born 1930-1940 range,
place unknown

what info do u have on the above people in terms
of dates of birth, marriage, death
places of birth , marriage, death,
names of spouses, children, etc.

these are on both our family trees as they are
relatives of our relatives

thanks

nr








From: Yoav Eshel [yeshel@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 11:26 PM
To: admin@myhomeloancompany.com
Subject: Possible relatives of the Klein family ?

Dear Michael,



I came across your site while I was looking for any Klein relatives
originally from Munkacs, Czechoslowakia (today, Mukachevo Ukraine). I found
this sentence: “Also..... Abraham Peres AXELRAD b. 1898 Rosvigovo, son of
Chaim AXELRAD & Berta/Bella KLEIN married…” via your web site:
www.myhomeloancompany.com/ kleins/archive/2004_12_12_archive.html - 32k

Unfortunately, there is no access to this specific address but only to
www.myhomeloancompany.com

Abraham Peres Axelrad is my late grandfather and he was married to the late
Brandel Berta Klein.

I wonder if you have more information on my late grandfather & grandmother
and also about the Klein family from Munkacs?

I know that three brothers of Brandel immigrated to the states just before
world was II, but there is no further information on them. Are you part of
this family ?



Thank you very much for your time & attention.



Best regards,

Yoav Eshel

Yavne,

Israel

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 9:02 PM
To: 'Steve Schwartz'
Subject: RE:

Interesting. I'm going to Israel with my father and brother tomorrow morning, and we will be back in a few weeks. I beleive my father got in touch with your sister in Har Nof.

Have a good week,



=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Schwartz [mailto:sschwartz@mail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 6:48 PM
To: sschwartz@mail.com
Subject:


I thought you’d be interested in seeing an article that I wrote in early July for my Shul’s newspaper. The procedure referred to took place during the week of July 17-22, 2005.

Steve Schwartz

To Save a Life; To Remember a Life

I’ve been given the opportunity to save someone’s life. In so doing, I will help to commemorate the life of a wonderful, sweet young man who died too young.

Nearly twenty years ago, a close friend of mine organized a massive drive to find a bone marrow match for her brother. That’s how I got onto the registry of the National Marrow Donor Program. A match was found but, for some reason, the transplant never happened. Maurice Philip Raphael Herschfus (of blessed memory) lived several more years in remission before succumbing to his illness. Now, because he lived, I may be able to give another young man some years to add to his current 32, and I can’t help but think that this is yet another tribute to the life of young Maurice.

I remember, as a child, how my father (of blessed memory) would receive awards and certificates for giving large amounts of blood each year – he was a real champion at donating blood. I tried to emulate him, I really did. But giving blood was not my thing. After several bad experiences donating blood (passing out, severe bruising on my arm), I gave up. Whenever a blood drive was announced, I hid. I claimed I was “too busy.” And I was ashamed of myself. After all, my father did it, why couldn’t I?

Then, about 2 months ago, the call came – I was a 100% match for a young man with non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma. Without a bone marrow transplant, he would probably soon die. They found no one else who was a 100% match. How could I say no?

The updated procedure now is to do a “stem cell transplant” rather than an actual bone marrow transplant. They’ll inject me with a drug (filgrastim) for five days to stimulate the movement of stem cells from my bone marrow into my bloodstream. Then, for two days, they’ll hook me up to a machine that will take my blood out of one arm, remove the stem cells from my blood, and then return the blood into my other arm.

I admit that I’m a little scared. If I can’t even donate blood, how can I survive two days of having blood taken from one arm and then put back into the other? Also, the filgrastim typically causes headaches, bone or muscle pain and nausea. It doesn’t sound too pleasant. But then I think about a 32-year old whose life is hanging in the balance. And I think about Maurice, for whom I had myself tested so many years ago. And the “unpleasantness” doesn’t seem too important anymore.

For information about the National Marrow Donor Program, visit www.marrow.org on the web, or call (800) MARROW2.

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 10:43 AM
To: 'moishe goldmunz'
Subject: our trip to Israel

Contacts: moishe goldmunz

Hi, this is Reuven Chaim Klein, we spoke some time ago. My family is going on a trip to Eretz Yisroel from this week through late August. We leave Monday morning. We would very much like to visit Mrs. Beinhorn, but we don't have an address or telephone number in order to reach. Would you please be able to supply us with this information by either emailing me back to this address or calling my father's cell phone at *********

Thank you in advance for your help and have a good week,



=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:50 PM
To: 'Avrohom Klein'
Subject: RE:

I'm so sorry, I thought that I already sent you an email telling you that I got them. I received on Thursday, I read through them over Shabbos. Thank you so much for them.




=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add |IM )
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Avrohom Klein [mailto:ak@ksh.name]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:35 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject:


Dear Reuven Chaim

Did you recieve the Kintreisin of Toldos Remoh & Mateh Reuven?

Please let me know

Kol Tuv

Avrohom Klein




From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 9:21 PM
To: 'frankro@rcn.com'
Subject: RE: An American Isserles in Krakow in August 2005

Wow thank you for the link.

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Frank [mailto:frankro@rcn.com]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 9:12 PM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: An American Isserles in Krakow in August 2005


Thanks so much, Reuven. I will send you some pictures from Krakow. But I'm not
sure I'll do any better than the pictures you'll see at:

http://ddickerson.igc.org/rema.html

If by any chance you haven't been to that site, I'm sure you'll be as moved as
I was.

Thanks again, cousin,

Bob Frank

"R.C. Klein" wrote:

> While I have been researching my family history and genealogy for about a
> year and a half now, I haven't gathered that much information about the
> Iseerles side of my family. This is what I do know: my gggg-grandfather, R'
> Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach (son after son, the generation before my
> family adopted the surname KLEIN), married the daughter of R' Yaakov Charif
> of Wolbrom, Poland. Rabbi Charif is reputed as being a descendant of both
> the TaZ and the ReMa. Therefore, it states in my ggg-grandfather's sefer
> that he was a descendant of the ReMa and TaZ. That is my basis for my claim
> of descent from the ReMa. There a quite a few semi-comprehensive biographies
> of the ReMa available, they pretty much repeat the same basic information R'
> Issserles. That is basically all the information which I have on the
> subject. I recently received a biography of the ReMa in the mail from a
> fellow researcher who paid for its publishing in honor of his daughter's
> marriage. The book, is in Hebrew and is called "Toldos HaReMa." I haven't
> read through it in its entirety yet, but I plan to eventually do so after my
> trip to Israel in August 2005. It's good to hear that people are going to
> visit Krakow to see learn about the ReMa.
>
> If I could ask of you a favor, would please be so kind as to take some
> pictures of the ReMa's shul and other religious places on interest on your
> trip to Europe and email or snail mail the pictures to me. I'm always very
> interested in seeing these kinds of places, even if I can't go there myself.
>
> Kol Tuv,
>
> =====
> Reuven Chaim Klein
> President of Kleins' Web Designs
> AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
> MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
> Websites:
> http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
> http://Rachack.tripod.com
> http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
> http://rachack.blogspot.com
>
> (Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on
> Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)
>
> Surnames being researched:
> In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called
> Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
> ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
> In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
> >From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Frank [mailto:JGJGFF@lyris.jewishgen.org]
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:30 PM
> To: rachack@futurecities.com
> Subject: An American Isserles in Krakow in August 2005
>
> - From : Robert Frank, (researcher code 172706) frankro@rcn.com
> - To : Reuven Chaim Klein, (researcher code 106665)
> - Subject : An American Isserles in Krakow in August 2005
> =======================================================
> Dear Reuven,
> I've just discovered the JewishGen web site, where I came upon your name. I
> am the grandson of Rose Isserles, who left Poland around 1907. I will be
> visiting Krakow and the Remuh Synagogue this August, for the first time. Do
> you have any thoughts or information you'd like to share with me? I don't
> know much about my family history.
> Thanks very much,
> Robert Frank
> 458 Shawmut Ave.
> Boston, Massachusetts 02118
> USA
> frankro@rcn.com
> tel. 1-617-424-6733
> =======================================================
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From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:29 PM
To: 'frankro@rcn.com'
Subject: RE: An American Isserles in Krakow in August 2005

While I have been researching my family history and genealogy for about a year and a half now, I haven't gathered that much information about the Iseerles side of my family. This is what I do know: my gggg-grandfather, R' Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach (son after son, the generation before my family adopted the surname KLEIN), married the daughter of R' Yaakov Charif of Wolbrom, Poland. Rabbi Charif is reputed as being a descendant of both the TaZ and the ReMa. Therefore, it states in my ggg-grandfather's sefer that he was a descendant of the ReMa and TaZ. That is my basis for my claim of descent from the ReMa. There a quite a few semi-comprehensive biographies of the ReMa available, they pretty much repeat the same basic information R' Issserles. That is basically all the information which I have on the subject. I recently received a biography of the ReMa in the mail from a fellow researcher who paid for its publishing in honor of his daughter's marriage. The book, is in Hebrew and is called "Toldos HaReMa." I haven't read through it in its entirety yet, but I plan to eventually do so after my trip to Israel in August 2005. It's good to hear that people are going to visit Krakow to see learn about the ReMa.

If I could ask of you a favor, would please be so kind as to take some pictures of the ReMa's shul and other religious places on interest on your trip to Europe and email or snail mail the pictures to me. I'm always very interested in seeing these kinds of places, even if I can't go there myself.

Kol Tuv,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Frank [mailto:JGJGFF@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:30 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: An American Isserles in Krakow in August 2005



- From : Robert Frank, (researcher code 172706) frankro@rcn.com
- To : Reuven Chaim Klein, (researcher code 106665)
- Subject : An American Isserles in Krakow in August 2005
=======================================================
Dear Reuven,
I've just discovered the JewishGen web site, where I came upon your name. I am the grandson of Rose Isserles, who left Poland around 1907. I will be visiting Krakow and the Remuh Synagogue this August, for the first time. Do you have any thoughts or information you'd like to share with me? I don't know much about my family history.
Thanks very much,
Robert Frank
458 Shawmut Ave.
Boston, Massachusetts 02118
USA
frankro@rcn.com
tel. 1-617-424-6733
=======================================================
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From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:11 AM
To: 'elie alperstein'
Subject: RE: Rabbi Alperstein's Book; visit to his grave in Mt. Judah

your welcome.




=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: elie alperstein [mailto:eliealp@zahav.net.il]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 5:57 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: Rabbi Alperstein's Book; visit to his grave in Mt. Judah


Dear Reuven,
Thank you for your kind response to my query. I have sent an email to Judy per the address you forwarded to me.
With best regards and many thanks,
Eliezer Alperstein

----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Klein
To: 'elie alperstein'
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:05 AM
Subject: RE: Rabbi Alperstein's Book; visit to his grave in Mt. Judah

To Eliezer Avraham Alperstein,

I looked back in my records and I can't find that original email from the lady who went to his kever, all I found was the reply which I sent her that you found on my website. I suggest that you search her name on Google http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Judi+Langer-Surnamer+Caplan%22 &btnG=Search&hl=en&lr= and see if you can contact her, she probably has more information than I do, I was only answering her question about where the name Peiros Genusar comes from. Hatzlacha Raba in your search. Perhaps you would like to get involved in the Jewish Genealogical Society, their website is http://www.jewishgen.org and they are really helpful in mind own research.

On an unrelated topic, I run a website called Rabbinical Authority Consortium of HACKers, the URL is http://rachack.blogspot.com maybe you would like to check it out.

Gut Voch,



=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add |IM )
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: elie alperstein [mailto:eliealp@zahav.net.il]
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 2:27 PM
To: Rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: Rabbi Alperstein's Book; visit to his grave in Mt. Judah


I was doing a Google search and came upon a statement written on 2004.11.24 by Judi Langer regarding her visit to Rabbi Avraham Eliezer Alperstein's grave in Mt. Judah. I am Rabbi Alperstein's great-grandson. His book can be accessed on the web via www.seforimonline.org I would be curious to know if there was a specific reason why Ms. Langer went to Mt. Judah to visit his grave. I am trying to gather information on the life of my great-grandfather and have noted on my visits to his grave that others have also been there. Rabbi Alperstein died in 1917. All of his chidren have left this world, as have most of his grand-children. I believe that most of the poeple visiting his grave are not his decendents. I would very much like to know the reason why his grave attracts the visits of non-family members. It would be greatly appreciated if you would contact me regarding this issue since I am trying to understand the life of my great-grandfather.

In a completely unrelated matter, I had a letter to the editor published Friday in the letters to the editor section of the New York Times related to Israel (July 15, 2005). You may find it of interest.
Shavuah Tov,
Eliezer Avraham Alperstein
Great-grandson of Rabbi Alperstein
Elkanah, Israel



From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 10:05 PM
To: 'elie alperstein'
Subject: RE: Rabbi Alperstein's Book; visit to his grave in Mt. Judah

To Eliezer Avraham Alperstein,

I looked back in my records and I can't find that original email from the lady who went to his kever, all I found was the reply which I sent her that you found on my website. I suggest that you search her name on Google http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Judi+Langer-Surnamer+Caplan%22 &btnG=Search&hl=en&lr= and see if you can contact her, she probably has more information than I do, I was only answering her question about where the name Peiros Genusar comes from. Hatzlacha Raba in your search. Perhaps you would like to get involved in the Jewish Genealogical Society, their website is http://www.jewishgen.org and they are really helpful in mind own research.

On an unrelated topic, I run a website called Rabbinical Authority Consortium of HACKers, the URL is http://rachack.blogspot.com maybe you would like to check it out.

Gut Voch,


=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add |IM )
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: elie alperstein [mailto:eliealp@zahav.net.il]
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 2:27 PM
To: Rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: Rabbi Alperstein's Book; visit to his grave in Mt. Judah


I was doing a Google search and came upon a statement written on 2004.11.24 by Judi Langer regarding her visit to Rabbi Avraham Eliezer Alperstein's grave in Mt. Judah. I am Rabbi Alperstein's great-grandson. His book can be accessed on the web via www.seforimonline.org I would be curious to know if there was a specific reason why Ms. Langer went to Mt. Judah to visit his grave. I am trying to gather information on the life of my great-grandfather and have noted on my visits to his grave that others have also been there. Rabbi Alperstein died in 1917. All of his chidren have left this world, as have most of his grand-children. I believe that most of the poeple visiting his grave are not his decendents. I would very much like to know the reason why his grave attracts the visits of non-family members. It would be greatly appreciated if you would contact me regarding this issue since I am trying to understand the life of my great-grandfather.

In a completely unrelated matter, I had a letter to the editor published Friday in the letters to the editor section of the New York Times related to Israel (July 15, 2005). You may find it of interest.
Shavuah Tov,
Eliezer Avraham Alperstein
Great-grandson of Rabbi Alperstein
Elkanah, Israel



From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:39 PM
To: 'Sapirman Family'
Subject: RE: [ravsig] Is R' Yosef CHARIF linked to the TaZ or the ReMa?

Im not sure

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
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http://rachack.blogspot.com

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Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: Sapirman Family [mailto:sapirman@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:38 PM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: [ravsig] Is R' Yosef CHARIF linked to the TaZ or the ReMa?


Do you know where the book is available in Toronto? I guess
I could call the Jewish Public Library- but they aren't always so current.
Do you think the two names are the same place?
I am looking for a connection through the Stein family to the Bais Yosef.
Do you know of any?Thanks.
M.Sapirman
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.C. Klein"
To: "'Sapirman Family'"
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:18 PM
Subject: RE: [ravsig] Is R' Yosef CHARIF linked to the TaZ or the ReMa?


See this book about Bonyhad written by my father's great uncle:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0884001784/qid=1119838630/sr=8
-4/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i4_xgl14/104-3234659-3864762?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

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Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
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http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on
Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called
Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: Sapirman Family [mailto:sapirman@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:13 PM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: [ravsig] Is R' Yosef CHARIF linked to the TaZ or the ReMa?


Hello!
In your letter you mentioned a place called Bonyhad in Hungary.
I found a place called Banfhoinead( between the mountains of Transylvania)
where a Rabbi Peretz Tuvia Stein had a yeshiva.
Might this be the same place?
And do you have any information about the Jews there in the 1900's?
Sorry, but I don't have any info for your questions.
But, I do know there is a book on Hungarian Rabbis by Abraham Fuchs and
there might have been mention ofa Rabbi Kuttner.
I hope I am remembering correctly.
All the best,
M. Sapirman
Toronto

----- Original Message -----
From: "R.C. Klein"
To: "Rabbinic Genealogy SIG"
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 2:43 PM
Subject: [ravsig] Is R' Yosef CHARIF linked to the TaZ or the ReMa?


> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> Some time ago a received some information in the mail from a fellow
> researcher in New York that my ggg-grandfather (Reuven Chaim KLEIN)
> was a grandson of Rav Yosef LICHTIG (CHARIF) HaLevi the Rav of
> Zborov, meaning that my gggg-grandfather Binyamin Eliezer
> UNGAR-AUERBACH (father of Reuven Chaim KLEIN -- the name UNGAR
> AUERBACH was changed to KLEIN) married the daughter of Rav Yosef
> CHARIF. At that point, I requested information about Rav Yosef
> CHARIF and data about his direct relation to the TaZ (Rabbi Dovid
> SEGAL HaLevi).
>
> Upon further investigation (namely the biographical information
> about my ggg-grandfather in the 1985 edition of the sefer Shenos
> Chaim), I discovered that my ggg-grandfather's mother's father was
> actually Rav Yakov HaLevi, the brother of Rav Yosef CHARIF, not Rav
> Yosef CHARIF himself. Rav Yaakov HaLevi was the head of the Beis Din
> in Wolbrom and then in Krakow.
>
> Rav Yaakov and Rav Yosef were both sons of Rav Tzvi Hirsch HaLevi
> LITZAS (sp? the spelling in the sefer is Lamed-Yud-Yud-Tzadi-Alephc-
> two lines-Samech) who was the head of the Beis Din in Ambrova (sp?
> the spelling in the sefer is Aleph-Mem-Beis-Reish-Aleph-Vav-Vav-
> Aleph) who was a direct descendant of the TaZ and the ReMa (Rav
> Moshe ISSERLES).
>
> My questions are the following: Is there any documentation or
> tradition linking this family to the TaZ and/or ReMa? One strong
> proof could be the fact that this family is a family of Leviim which
> goes after a patrilineal descent and could easily imply that just
> this family is direct male descendants of the TaZ because the TaZ
> was also a Levite. But I would really like to know the names of all
> or some of the generations between Rav Yakov HaLevi and the TaZ.
> Also, I would like to know how this whole thing fits in with the
> ReMa. In addition, and probably one of the most important points, I
> would like to know what the name is of Rav Yaakov's daughter whom my
> gggg-grandfather Binyamin Eliezer UNGAR-AUERBACH married. Also, it
> would be really helpful for someone to correct for me the last name
> of Rav Tzvi Hirsch and the name of the town in which he was Rav.
>
> Help in this research will be greatly appreciated. I would like to
> thank all those who have helped me thus far and would like to thank
> in advance those who will help me in the future.
>
>
> Reuven Chaim Klein
> http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins
>
> Surnames being researched:
> In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding
> areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or
> Klyachanovo) or in Wolbrom:
> ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
> In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
> From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES
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From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:28 PM
To: 'Dick@Plotz.com'
Subject: RE: BARDACH

I'm sorry, but I've never heard of Rabbi David CHARIF, nor did I even know that BARDACH stands for B'nei Rabbi David Charif. I'm just an amateur. It could be a different CHARIF related to the TaZ because I know for sure that the CHARIFs that I've been researching are Leviim and thus are most likely direct male descendants of the TaZ. I still don't know how any of this fits in with the ReMa.

Kol Tuv,

=====
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http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Plotz [mailto:Dick@Plotz.Com]
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:59 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: BARDACH


Hello Reuven--

I noted with interest your post in Ravsig today. I remember hearing
that the progenitor of the BARDACH family (the family of my wife's
ggf, prominent in Lemberg and elsewhere in Galicia) was related to
TaZ. It was a complicated relationship, possibly a mechutin, and not
a direct blood relationship. BARDACH, as you probably know, is an
acronym for B'nei Rabbi David CHarif. So there is probably a
connection there to your story. The problem is that I have never
heard that the Bardach family were Levis. By the time my
mother-in-law was born, the family were completely assimilated in
Germany and would not have known or cared whether they were Levis.
But the records in Lemberg also don't refer to them as Levis. If
Rabbi David Charif was TaZ's mechutin, it wouldn't be a problem, but
if your Charif's were Levis, that does raise questions.

Of course, I'd be especially interested in any clues to the
intervening generations of Bardachs; I can only go back to the start
of the Lemberg records, where we have two addiitonal generations
bringing us back to about the 1790s: Jacob Kopel Bardach m. Malka
Koehlman or Kehlman; their son Isaak, b. Mar 1822, m. Rosalie/Rachel
Jasser from Brody; their son Karl, b. 1857/59 was my wife's
great-grandfather.

If there is also a connection to ReMA, that would provide the
long-sought connection between my family (I am descended from ReMA's
brother Eliezer) and my wife's.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI
From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:54 PM
To: 'fairholt@ask-klein.co.uk'
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: family

Mazel Tov!!

Gut Shabbos und Gut Yuntiff

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
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Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: fairholt@ask-klein.co.uk [mailto:fairholt@ask-klein.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:18 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: family



hi!my brother YOSHIA AHRON who learns in the MIR in yerushelayim became
engaged to the daughter of grand rabbi mordchei korn shlita tho dayan
in the union of london.
From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 7:50 PM
To: 'fairholt@ask-klein.co.uk'
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: family

How are you doing? Long time no speak.

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: fairholt@ask-klein.co.uk [mailto:fairholt@ask-klein.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 10:48 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: family



I am happy to hear that u got it.
did you become clever with the imformation in the book?
by the way,please let me know the address and tel. number of your uncle
in beth shemesh


all the best!
From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 12:35 PM
To: 'Danny and Chani Barr'
Subject: RE: R'Yosef charif

it's ok




=====
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Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Chani Barr [mailto:barrda@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 1:27 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: R'Yosef charif


Oh dear, it's good that you reminded me !!

What with one thing and another, it slipped my mind.

Please give me an extension of a day, it will all bli neder be in the post tomorrow !!

Danny

----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Klein
To: 'Danny and Chani Barr'
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 7:49 AM
Subject: RE: R'Yosef charif

Sorry for not responding earlier. I'm still working on answering the questions. I am also still waiting for the copies in the mail, they will hopefully be really helpful. Thank you so much.

Gut Voch
=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Chani Barr [mailto:barrda@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 12:43 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: R'Yosef charif


Thanks Reuven, it'll take me two or three days, but I'll definitely send the pages out. Meir wunder's encyclopedia is not so easy to get hold of, even in hebrew speaking Israel, especially for me who lives in the golan Heights. But it's in any serious library, which is when i photocopied the relevant pages.

It seems we have the same "machsom" (barrier), how to connect the Taz, who died in 1660 something, to the 1800s. I woiuld dearly like to know, for instance, through which one of the Taz's children do the lichtigs-Sterns connect?

I know that R' yosef charif was a levi, and so was the taz- that does that mean it's through one of his sons, and not one of the daughters? and that it's a fathe rto son link for those 200 years? Who knows, with a trwo hundred year gap, it doesn't have to be that way. When you ask around, ask this question, though i'm pessimistic if you get an answer.

Shavua tov,
Danny

----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Klein
To: 'Danny and Chani Barr'
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: R'Yosef charif

If you would prefer to snailmail it to me, then my address is: Reuven Chaim Klein, 12366 Chandler Blvd. #B, Valley Village, CA 91607. I look forward to reading about this.

My ggg-grandfather, Reuven Chaim Klein, wrote the sefer Shenos Chaim. In the 1985 edition, published by Mechon Yerushalayim, it says that he was a descendant of the ReMa and the TaZ. I wanted to find out how, so I spoke to another researcher who is related to me (we met through JewishGen) and he told me that the Shenos Chaim's father, Rav Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach, was a son-in-law of R' Yosef Charif, and the latter is "known" as a descendant of the TaZ. I'm trying to verify Rav Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach (my gggg-grandfather) was the son-in-law of Rav Yosef Charif, and I'm trying to find out exactly how R' Charif is from the TaZ.

Gut Voch,



=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Chani Barr [mailto:barrda@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 12:02 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: R'Yosef charif


Hi Reuven, I got your email, I have to rush off now, but let me know-
do you want the pages scanned or snailmailed?
If you're not desperate, I'd rather snail mail- what's your address?

But bekitzur- Rav Meir wunder wrote a unique, scholarly five volume encycloedia of "meorei galizia". To find out about this work, go from the "jewishgen" home page to "special interest groups" (rabbinic), from there to where it says "online journal", from there to "reviews", and from there to "book review-meorei galicia".

As far as rabbinic genealogy goes, Rav Wunder is considered by many to be the most outstanding contributor to this topic in the twentieth century. I've had the zchut to speak to him by phone. He is retired and a bit elderly now, but lives in Yerushalayim.

The encyclopedia is in Hebrew, but between the two of us (we're both dati, and I've been living in Israel for over 20 years), we'll manage.

From the top of my head- R' Yosef charif is mentioned in at least one book as being migeza or mitze-etzaei hataz, and this is corroborated by other books where his cousins from the name of stern are also written as tze-etzaei hataz. One of the books even mentions why his branch changed his name froim "stern" to "lichtig", there's a whole inyan about it. He and his cousins are about ten or so in number, all are in Meir Wunder's book, so there's a lot of corroboration.

How do you know of r'Yosef charif? are you related?

Danny

----- Original Message -----

From: R.C. Klein
To: 'Danny and Chani Barr'
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 6:41 AM
Subject: RE: R'Yosef charif

To start off, my name is Reuven Chaim Klein, and I live in Valley Village, CA. I have not seen the entry of "R'Yosef Charif" from Meir Wunder's book, so it would be very helpful for you to please send the copies, I would very much appreciate it. So now that we both know that R' Yosef Charif is a descendant of the TaZ, do you have the exact yichus for him, or is it only based on a kabbala? I don't know anything about the Stern or Lichtig families in Munkatch. Maybe if you search around on my site, you could find something helpful. My address is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins

Gut Voch,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add |IM )
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Chani Barr [mailto:barrda@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 5:21 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: R'Yosef charif


Shavua tov,
I saw your 29 April letter in ravsig.

Do you have the entry of "R'Yosef Charif" from Meir Wunder's book? It gives a few more details about his family tree. I have photocopies of the relevant pages

I also have a photocopy of the relevant pages of a book published in Munkatch in the 1930s by a grandson or greatgrandson of R'Yosef Charif, one of the Weisses, which specifically mentions that he is a descendant of the Taz. I found this book in the Bar-Ilan library,also via the information in Meir Wunder's book.

I'm also looking to trace my wife's ancestry to the Taz, she connects to Sterns in Munkatch (Sterns and Lichtigs relate to each other), but i'm having a real challenge going back further than the mid eighteen hundreds.
Maybe we'll pool our resources?



Danny Barr
Moshav Yonatan
Golan Heights
Israel

P.S What is your name and where are you?

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 10:50 PM
To: 'Danny and Chani Barr'
Subject: RE: R'Yosef charif

Sorry for not responding earlier. I'm still working on answering the questions. I am also still waiting for the copies in the mail, they will hopefully be really helpful. Thank you so much.

Gut Voch
=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Chani Barr [mailto:barrda@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 12:43 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: R'Yosef charif


Thanks Reuven, it'll take me two or three days, but I'll definitely send the pages out. Meir wunder's encyclopedia is not so easy to get hold of, even in hebrew speaking Israel, especially for me who lives in the golan Heights. But it's in any serious library, which is when i photocopied the relevant pages.

It seems we have the same "machsom" (barrier), how to connect the Taz, who died in 1660 something, to the 1800s. I woiuld dearly like to know, for instance, through which one of the Taz's children do the lichtigs-Sterns connect?

I know that R' yosef charif was a levi, and so was the taz- that does that mean it's through one of his sons, and not one of the daughters? and that it's a fathe rto son link for those 200 years? Who knows, with a trwo hundred year gap, it doesn't have to be that way. When you ask around, ask this question, though i'm pessimistic if you get an answer.

Shavua tov,
Danny

----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Klein
To: 'Danny and Chani Barr'
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: R'Yosef charif

If you would prefer to snailmail it to me, then my address is: Reuven Chaim Klein, 12366 Chandler Blvd. #B, Valley Village, CA 91607. I look forward to reading about this.

My ggg-grandfather, Reuven Chaim Klein, wrote the sefer Shenos Chaim. In the 1985 edition, published by Mechon Yerushalayim, it says that he was a descendant of the ReMa and the TaZ. I wanted to find out how, so I spoke to another researcher who is related to me (we met through JewishGen) and he told me that the Shenos Chaim's father, Rav Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach, was a son-in-law of R' Yosef Charif, and the latter is "known" as a descendant of the TaZ. I'm trying to verify Rav Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach (my gggg-grandfather) was the son-in-law of Rav Yosef Charif, and I'm trying to find out exactly how R' Charif is from the TaZ.

Gut Voch,



=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Chani Barr [mailto:barrda@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 12:02 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: R'Yosef charif


Hi Reuven, I got your email, I have to rush off now, but let me know-
do you want the pages scanned or snailmailed?
If you're not desperate, I'd rather snail mail- what's your address?

But bekitzur- Rav Meir wunder wrote a unique, scholarly five volume encycloedia of "meorei galizia". To find out about this work, go from the "jewishgen" home page to "special interest groups" (rabbinic), from there to where it says "online journal", from there to "reviews", and from there to "book review-meorei galicia".

As far as rabbinic genealogy goes, Rav Wunder is considered by many to be the most outstanding contributor to this topic in the twentieth century. I've had the zchut to speak to him by phone. He is retired and a bit elderly now, but lives in Yerushalayim.

The encyclopedia is in Hebrew, but between the two of us (we're both dati, and I've been living in Israel for over 20 years), we'll manage.

From the top of my head- R' Yosef charif is mentioned in at least one book as being migeza or mitze-etzaei hataz, and this is corroborated by other books where his cousins from the name of stern are also written as tze-etzaei hataz. One of the books even mentions why his branch changed his name froim "stern" to "lichtig", there's a whole inyan about it. He and his cousins are about ten or so in number, all are in Meir Wunder's book, so there's a lot of corroboration.

How do you know of r'Yosef charif? are you related?

Danny

----- Original Message -----

From: R.C. Klein
To: 'Danny and Chani Barr'
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 6:41 AM
Subject: RE: R'Yosef charif

To start off, my name is Reuven Chaim Klein, and I live in Valley Village, CA. I have not seen the entry of "R'Yosef Charif" from Meir Wunder's book, so it would be very helpful for you to please send the copies, I would very much appreciate it. So now that we both know that R' Yosef Charif is a descendant of the TaZ, do you have the exact yichus for him, or is it only based on a kabbala? I don't know anything about the Stern or Lichtig families in Munkatch. Maybe if you search around on my site, you could find something helpful. My address is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins

Gut Voch,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add |IM )
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Chani Barr [mailto:barrda@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 5:21 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: R'Yosef charif


Shavua tov,
I saw your 29 April letter in ravsig.

Do you have the entry of "R'Yosef Charif" from Meir Wunder's book? It gives a few more details about his family tree. I have photocopies of the relevant pages

I also have a photocopy of the relevant pages of a book published in Munkatch in the 1930s by a grandson or greatgrandson of R'Yosef Charif, one of the Weisses, which specifically mentions that he is a descendant of the Taz. I found this book in the Bar-Ilan library,also via the information in Meir Wunder's book.

I'm also looking to trace my wife's ancestry to the Taz, she connects to Sterns in Munkatch (Sterns and Lichtigs relate to each other), but i'm having a real challenge going back further than the mid eighteen hundreds.
Maybe we'll pool our resources?



Danny Barr
Moshav Yonatan
Golan Heights
Israel

P.S What is your name and where are you?

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 9:51 PM
To: 'Michael Katz'
Subject: RE: Katz family

ok




=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Katz [mailto:michaelkatznvcs@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 8:46 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: RE: Katz family







Hi RC,

I sent your website to my Mother, she is the family expert. She will figure out if we are related. There are a lot of common names but I doubt it.

Thanks.

Michael






>From: "R.C. Klein"
>To:
>Subject: Katz family
>Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 23:01:22 -0700
>
>I just got this email (below) tonight from JewishGen, maybe it will help
>you. My genealogy site is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins check it
>out, maybe you can find some connections.
>
>Gut Voch,
>
>=====
>Reuven Chaim Klein
>President of Kleins' Web Designs
>AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
>MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
>Websites:
>http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
>http://Rachack.tripod.com
>http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
>http://rachack.blogspot.com
>
>(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on
>Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)
>
>Surnames being researched:
>In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called
>Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
>ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
>In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
>From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JewishGen Discussion Group digest
>[mailto:jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org]
>Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:00 PM
>To: jewishgen digest recipients
>Subject: jewishgen digest: May 06, 2005
>
>
>**********************************************************************
> Thinking of visiting your ancestral shtetls?
> Let JewishGen ShtetlSchleppersR take you there!
> http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/
>**********************************************************************
>JEWISHGEN Digest for Friday, May 06, 2005.
>
>1. Eugene Oregon Genealogy Meeting May 11
>2. Isaac & Sophia KATZ
>3. POLISHUK, NY - Where Are They?
>4. Re: Houston Jewish-Herald Voice Update
>5. Mount of Olives Burial Information
>6. Help with German translation of occupation
>7. Re: deMEZA family in Genoa, Italy
>8. OTTERMAN, MUTERMILCH (Warsaw)
>9. re: Jewish Genealogical Presence in Charleston SC
>10. The Survivors Story
>11. Kossover Society at New Montifiore Cemetery
>12. Should I Call?
>13. Murderous Medicine by Dr. Naomi Baumslag
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Subject: Isaac & Sophia KATZ
>From: Sara Lynns
>Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:34:40 -0700 (PDT)
>X-Message-Number: 2
>
>Found Isaac and Sophia KATZ on 1914 EIDB
>Born 1879 and 1881 respectively
>Lived in NYC
>
>Please email me privately if you are related
>Thank you
>
>Jacqueline Lerner-Aderman
>saralynn7@yahoo.com
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>


From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 12:06 AM
To: 'NJ55TURTLE@aol.com'
Subject: Klein/Auerbach

I have to point out that my family's name is Klein going up until my gggg-grandfather, whose last name was Ungar-Auerbach (my ggg-grandfather changed his last name to that of a childless couple in his town).

Gut Voch,


=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 11:17 PM
To: 'Danny and Chani Barr'
Subject: RE: R'Yosef charif

If you would prefer to snailmail it to me, then my address is: Reuven Chaim Klein, 12366 Chandler Blvd. #B, Valley Village, CA 91607. I look forward to reading about this.

My ggg-grandfather, Reuven Chaim Klein, wrote the sefer Shenos Chaim. In the 1985 edition, published by Mechon Yerushalayim, it says that he was a descendant of the ReMa and the TaZ. I wanted to find out how, so I spoke to another researcher who is related to me (we met through JewishGen) and he told me that the Shenos Chaim's father, Rav Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach, was a son-in-law of R' Yosef Charif, and the latter is "known" as a descendant of the TaZ. I'm trying to verify Rav Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach (my gggg-grandfather) was the son-in-law of Rav Yosef Charif, and I'm trying to find out exactly how R' Charif is from the TaZ.

Gut Voch,


=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Chani Barr [mailto:barrda@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 12:02 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: R'Yosef charif


Hi Reuven, I got your email, I have to rush off now, but let me know-
do you want the pages scanned or snailmailed?
If you're not desperate, I'd rather snail mail- what's your address?

But bekitzur- Rav Meir wunder wrote a unique, scholarly five volume encycloedia of "meorei galizia". To find out about this work, go from the "jewishgen" home page to "special interest groups" (rabbinic), from there to where it says "online journal", from there to "reviews", and from there to "book review-meorei galicia".

As far as rabbinic genealogy goes, Rav Wunder is considered by many to be the most outstanding contributor to this topic in the twentieth century. I've had the zchut to speak to him by phone. He is retired and a bit elderly now, but lives in Yerushalayim.

The encyclopedia is in Hebrew, but between the two of us (we're both dati, and I've been living in Israel for over 20 years), we'll manage.

From the top of my head- R' Yosef charif is mentioned in at least one book as being migeza or mitze-etzaei hataz, and this is corroborated by other books where his cousins from the name of stern are also written as tze-etzaei hataz. One of the books even mentions why his branch changed his name froim "stern" to "lichtig", there's a whole inyan about it. He and his cousins are about ten or so in number, all are in Meir Wunder's book, so there's a lot of corroboration.

How do you know of r'Yosef charif? are you related?

Danny

----- Original Message -----

From: R.C. Klein
To: 'Danny and Chani Barr'
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 6:41 AM
Subject: RE: R'Yosef charif

To start off, my name is Reuven Chaim Klein, and I live in Valley Village, CA. I have not seen the entry of "R'Yosef Charif" from Meir Wunder's book, so it would be very helpful for you to please send the copies, I would very much appreciate it. So now that we both know that R' Yosef Charif is a descendant of the TaZ, do you have the exact yichus for him, or is it only based on a kabbala? I don't know anything about the Stern or Lichtig families in Munkatch. Maybe if you search around on my site, you could find something helpful. My address is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins

Gut Voch,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add |IM )
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Chani Barr [mailto:barrda@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 5:21 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: R'Yosef charif


Shavua tov,
I saw your 29 April letter in ravsig.

Do you have the entry of "R'Yosef Charif" from Meir Wunder's book? It gives a few more details about his family tree. I have photocopies of the relevant pages

I also have a photocopy of the relevant pages of a book published in Munkatch in the 1930s by a grandson or greatgrandson of R'Yosef Charif, one of the Weisses, which specifically mentions that he is a descendant of the Taz. I found this book in the Bar-Ilan library,also via the information in Meir Wunder's book.

I'm also looking to trace my wife's ancestry to the Taz, she connects to Sterns in Munkatch (Sterns and Lichtigs relate to each other), but i'm having a real challenge going back further than the mid eighteen hundreds.
Maybe we'll pool our resources?



Danny Barr
Moshav Yonatan
Golan Heights
Israel

P.S What is your name and where are you?

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 11:01 PM
To: 'michaelkatznvcs@hotmail.com'
Subject: Katz family

I just got this email (below) tonight from JewishGen, maybe it will help you. My genealogy site is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins check it out, maybe you can find some connections.

Gut Voch,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: JewishGen Discussion Group digest [mailto:jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:00 PM
To: jewishgen digest recipients
Subject: jewishgen digest: May 06, 2005


**********************************************************************
Thinking of visiting your ancestral shtetls?
Let JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers® take you there!
http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/
**********************************************************************
JEWISHGEN Digest for Friday, May 06, 2005.

1. Eugene Oregon Genealogy Meeting May 11
2. Isaac & Sophia KATZ
3. POLISHUK, NY - Where Are They?
4. Re: Houston Jewish-Herald Voice Update
5. Mount of Olives Burial Information
6. Help with German translation of occupation
7. Re: deMEZA family in Genoa, Italy
8. OTTERMAN, MUTERMILCH (Warsaw)
9. re: Jewish Genealogical Presence in Charleston SC
10. The Survivors Story
11. Kossover Society at New Montifiore Cemetery
12. Should I Call?
13. Murderous Medicine by Dr. Naomi Baumslag

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Isaac & Sophia KATZ
From: Sara Lynns
Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:34:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 2

Found Isaac and Sophia KATZ on 1914 EIDB
Born 1879 and 1881 respectively
Lived in NYC

Please email me privately if you are related
Thank you

Jacqueline Lerner-Aderman
saralynn7@yahoo.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 9:42 PM
To: 'Danny and Chani Barr'
Subject: RE: R'Yosef charif

To start off, my name is Reuven Chaim Klein, and I live in Valley Village, CA. I have not seen the entry of "R'Yosef Charif" from Meir Wunder's book, so it would be very helpful for you to please send the copies, I would very much appreciate it. So now that we both know that R' Yosef Charif is a descendant of the TaZ, do you have the exact yichus for him, or is it only based on a kabbala? I don't know anything about the Stern or Lichtig families in Munkatch. Maybe if you search around on my site, you could find something helpful. My address is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins

Gut Voch,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add |IM )
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Chani Barr [mailto:barrda@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 5:21 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: R'Yosef charif


Shavua tov,
I saw your 29 April letter in ravsig.

Do you have the entry of "R'Yosef Charif" from Meir Wunder's book? It gives a few more details about his family tree. I have photocopies of the relevant pages

I also have a photocopy of the relevant pages of a book published in Munkatch in the 1930s by a grandson or greatgrandson of R'Yosef Charif, one of the Weisses, which specifically mentions that he is a descendant of the Taz. I found this book in the Bar-Ilan library,also via the information in Meir Wunder's book.

I'm also looking to trace my wife's ancestry to the Taz, she connects to Sterns in Munkatch (Sterns and Lichtigs relate to each other), but i'm having a real challenge going back further than the mid eighteen hundreds.
Maybe we'll pool our resources?



Danny Barr
Moshav Yonatan
Golan Heights
Israel

P.S What is your name and where are you?

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 11:57 AM
To: 'Howard Moskowitz'
Subject: RE: Re:[ravsig] R' Yosef CHARIF

Do you know where I can look?

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Moskowitz [mailto:mjihrm@sprynet.com]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:33 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: Re:[ravsig] R' Yosef CHARIF


i don't have corroborating or collateral information.
i think we must be quite distantly related several generations back, but
only collaterally
i wish i could be of more help
regards/howard
Howard R. Moskowitz
Moskowitz Jacobs Inc.
1025 Westchester Ave.
White Plains, NY 10604 USA
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----- Original Message -----
From: "R.C. Klein"
To: "'Howard Moskowitz'"
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 1:43 AM
Subject: RE: Re:[ravsig] R' Yosef CHARIF


I only found out two days ago that my gggg-grandfather was a son-in-law of
R' Yosef Charif, as of now, I'm still trying to verify that it is true and
to find out more information about my gggg-grandfather and also my newly
discovered ggggg-grandfather, R' Yosef Charif. Perhaps you can help me in
that search? You refered to a YITZCHOCK Charif and YAKOV Charif, not Yoseph
like what I am looking for. Sorry.

I noticed in the tree that you sent me (pg. 6, 7th to the last line) that
the sefer mentions that you are a descendant of the Noam Elimelech (R'
Elimelech from Lizhensk). I am also through my grandfather's mother's side
(the Eckstein/Freidmans). Regarding the dates of Eckstein/Freidman, all I
know is that my grandfather was born in 1910 or 1912 (conflicting sources)
and he was their second (and last) child. He was the son of Chaya Zlata
Freidman, who was the daughter Devorah Eckstein and Eliezer Freidman, so
probably Eckstein/Freidman's marriage was in the mid to late 1800's (only my
own guesstimate). Their daughter Chaya Zlata married my grandfather and
lived Klyachanovo a village near Mukachevo. So really I don't have that much
information about this Eckstein/Freidman line yet.

Gut Moyd,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on
Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called
Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Moskowitz [mailto:mjihrm@sprynet.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:37 PM
To: moishe@langsam.com
Cc: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: Re:[ravsig] R' Yosef CHARIF


Gute moed
I got a copy of your email about R. Yitzchak Charif (p7, line 7)
In our family tree (see attached) there is a R. Yakov Charif (from my GM..
Rebbitzen Miriam (Yolles) Moskowitz)

Also..my (Yisroel Elimelech Moskowitz) was the Zborover Rov.
Is there a connection
Regards/Howard

Howard R. Moskowitz
Moskowitz Jacobs Inc.
1025 Westchester Ave.
White Plains, NY 10604 USA
Phone: 914.421.7400
website
MJI: www.mji-designlab.com
Ideamap.net: www.ideamap.net
NEW...OPEN INNOVATION WEBSITE: www.InnovAidOnline.net
JUST PUBLISHED!!: Concept Research In Food Product Design & Development
http://store.blackwell-professional.com/0813824249.html
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: "Rabbinic Genealogy SIG"
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:30 AM
Subject: Re:[ravsig] R' Yosef CHARIF


> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> *** Please Help JewishGen ***
> *** Revive Your Ancestry and Keep Us Alive ***
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> On 2004.04.27, R.C. Klein <> wrote:
>
> > [...] It is supposedly known that R' Yosef CHARIF is a
> > descendant of the TaZ (and BaCH) and ReMA. I would like to know
> > if this lineage is documented and exactly how many generations are
> > there between those Gedolim and him and what the names of those in
> > between.
>
> Gutten Moed,
>
> This is info that I have on a R' Yosef "Charif" Stern-Lichtig. He
> was an ancestor of my cousin, Rabbi Yosef Asher Weiss, today, Rosh
> HaYeshiva at Yeshivas Ohr Hadas (in Staten Island). His cousin (not
> mine) is married to one of the daughters of the Klausenberger Rebbe
> in Kiryat Sanz, Israel.
>
> They related to me that this R' Yosef "Charif" (of Zborov, Slovakia)
> was the son of the Lubliner Rebbe. R' Yosef "Charif" had a son
> R' Meir ASH, who had a daughter Sarah ASH. She married R' Tzvi WEISS
> (1818 - 1897) who was Ruv in Dumbrov & Zborov. They had a son R'
> Moshe WEISS (1850 - 1916) who had a son R' Yosef WEISS (c.1874-
> c.1928) and was Ruv in Zborov. He had a son Moshe WEISS (1900?- 1944
> PIH) of Salush (Vino-Gradov), Slovakia. He was my cousin's
> grandfather.
>
> For more info on this family you can contact me privately. I
> would also like to know if your ECKSTEIN research might have any
> connection to the Bnei Yissoschur. You can see info on this branch
> in my tree at:
> http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/eckstein/eckstein.htm
>
> Moishe Miller
> Brooklyn, NY
> moishe@langsam.com
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From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:43 PM
To: 'Howard Moskowitz'
Subject: RE: Re:[ravsig] R' Yosef CHARIF

I only found out two days ago that my gggg-grandfather was a son-in-law of R' Yosef Charif, as of now, I'm still trying to verify that it is true and to find out more information about my gggg-grandfather and also my newly discovered ggggg-grandfather, R' Yosef Charif. Perhaps you can help me in that search? You refered to a YITZCHOCK Charif and YAKOV Charif, not Yoseph like what I am looking for. Sorry.

I noticed in the tree that you sent me (pg. 6, 7th to the last line) that the sefer mentions that you are a descendant of the Noam Elimelech (R' Elimelech from Lizhensk). I am also through my grandfather's mother's side (the Eckstein/Freidmans). Regarding the dates of Eckstein/Freidman, all I know is that my grandfather was born in 1910 or 1912 (conflicting sources) and he was their second (and last) child. He was the son of Chaya Zlata Freidman, who was the daughter Devorah Eckstein and Eliezer Freidman, so probably Eckstein/Freidman's marriage was in the mid to late 1800's (only my own guesstimate). Their daughter Chaya Zlata married my grandfather and lived Klyachanovo a village near Mukachevo. So really I don't have that much information about this Eckstein/Freidman line yet.

Gut Moyd,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Moskowitz [mailto:mjihrm@sprynet.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:37 PM
To: moishe@langsam.com
Cc: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: Re:[ravsig] R' Yosef CHARIF


Gute moed
I got a copy of your email about R. Yitzchak Charif (p7, line 7)
In our family tree (see attached) there is a R. Yakov Charif (from my GM..
Rebbitzen Miriam (Yolles) Moskowitz)

Also..my (Yisroel Elimelech Moskowitz) was the Zborover Rov.
Is there a connection
Regards/Howard

Howard R. Moskowitz
Moskowitz Jacobs Inc.
1025 Westchester Ave.
White Plains, NY 10604 USA
Phone: 914.421.7400
website
MJI: www.mji-designlab.com
Ideamap.net: www.ideamap.net
NEW...OPEN INNOVATION WEBSITE: www.InnovAidOnline.net
JUST PUBLISHED!!: Concept Research In Food Product Design & Development
http://store.blackwell-professional.com/0813824249.html
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: "Rabbinic Genealogy SIG"
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:30 AM
Subject: Re:[ravsig] R' Yosef CHARIF


> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> *** Please Help JewishGen ***
> *** Revive Your Ancestry and Keep Us Alive ***
> http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> On 2004.04.27, R.C. Klein <> wrote:
>
> > [...] It is supposedly known that R' Yosef CHARIF is a
> > descendant of the TaZ (and BaCH) and ReMA. I would like to know
> > if this lineage is documented and exactly how many generations are
> > there between those Gedolim and him and what the names of those in
> > between.
>
> Gutten Moed,
>
> This is info that I have on a R' Yosef "Charif" Stern-Lichtig. He
> was an ancestor of my cousin, Rabbi Yosef Asher Weiss, today, Rosh
> HaYeshiva at Yeshivas Ohr Hadas (in Staten Island). His cousin (not
> mine) is married to one of the daughters of the Klausenberger Rebbe
> in Kiryat Sanz, Israel.
>
> They related to me that this R' Yosef "Charif" (of Zborov, Slovakia)
> was the son of the Lubliner Rebbe. R' Yosef "Charif" had a son
> R' Meir ASH, who had a daughter Sarah ASH. She married R' Tzvi WEISS
> (1818 - 1897) who was Ruv in Dumbrov & Zborov. They had a son R'
> Moshe WEISS (1850 - 1916) who had a son R' Yosef WEISS (c.1874-
> c.1928) and was Ruv in Zborov. He had a son Moshe WEISS (1900?- 1944
> PIH) of Salush (Vino-Gradov), Slovakia. He was my cousin's
> grandfather.
>
> For more info on this family you can contact me privately. I
> would also like to know if your ECKSTEIN research might have any
> connection to the Bnei Yissoschur. You can see info on this branch
> in my tree at:
> http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/eckstein/eckstein.htm
>
> Moishe Miller
> Brooklyn, NY
> moishe@langsam.com
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From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:26 PM
To: 'moishe@langsam.com'
Subject: RE: CHARIF and ECKSTEIN

If I have a chance I will IY"H call up Reb Weiss.

Regarding the dates of Eckstein/Freidman, all I know is that my grandfather was born in 1910 or 1912 (conflicting sources) and he was their second (and last) child. He was the son of Chaya Zlata Freidman, who was the daughter Devorah Eckstein and Eliezer Freidman, so probably Eckstein/Freidman's marriage was in the mid to late 1800's (only my own guesstimate). Their daughter Chaya Zlata married my grandfather and lived Klyachanovo a village near Mukachevo. So really I don't have that much information about this Eckstein/Freidman line yet.

Gut Moyd,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: moishe@langsam.com [mailto:moishe@langsam.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 12:50 PM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: CHARIF and ECKSTEIN


Hi,
I do not have the information you seek regarding R' Yosef
Charif, but please contact Reb Meyer (pronounced
My-ehr)Weiss of Union City. He is at 201-348-2951. Please
give him my regards (remind him that his aunt Aggie is my
aunt).

As for ECKSTEIN, I hope you realize that the Bnei
Yissoschur was a great-nephew of the Noam Elimelech
(through his mother). Can you supply dates and place or
residence for Eliezer Friedman and Devorah Eckstein?

Gutten Moed,
Moishe


On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:13:53 -0700
"R.C. Klein" wrote:
> Do you have any sources which say that R' Binyamin
> Eliezer UNGAR-AUERBACH
> was a son-in-law of Rabbi Yosef Charif, or do you know
> where I could look?
> Also, do you have the years which Rabbi Charif lived and
> any more
> biographical information about him?
>
> Regarding the Ecksteins, all I know is that my
> great-grandmother Chaya Zlata
> Mermelstein nee Klein nee Friedman (who married my
> great-grandfather
> Mordechai Klein) was the daughter of Eliezer Friedman and
> Devorah Eckstein,
> and that supposedly Eckstein was a known descendant of
> the Noam Elimelech,
> but I can't find out anything more about this anywhere.
>
> Gut Moyd,
> =====
> Reuven Chaim Klein
> President of
> Kleins' Web Designs
> AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (
> Add|
> love your website!>
> IM)
> MSN Passport/email:
> Rachack@futurecities.com and
>
> Anakin9000@yahoo.com
> Websites:
>
> http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
> http://Rachack.tripod.com
>
> http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
> http://rachack.blogspot.com
>
>
> (Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can
> only check me email on
> Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware
> of this.)
>
> Surnames being researched:
> In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding
> areas(especially a village called
> Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
> ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
> In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
> From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES
>

From: Howard Moskowitz [mjihrm@sprynet.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:37 PM
To: moishe@langsam.com
Cc: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: Re:[ravsig] R' Yosef CHARIF
Attachments: Ner.Yisroel..pdf

Gute moed
I got a copy of your email about R. Yitzchak Charif (p7, line 7)
In our family tree (see attached) there is a R. Yakov Charif (from my GM..
Rebbitzen Miriam (Yolles) Moskowitz)

Also..my (Yisroel Elimelech Moskowitz) was the Zborover Rov.
Is there a connection
Regards/Howard

Howard R. Moskowitz
Moskowitz Jacobs Inc.
1025 Westchester Ave.
White Plains, NY 10604 USA
Phone: 914.421.7400
website
MJI: www.mji-designlab.com
Ideamap.net: www.ideamap.net
NEW...OPEN INNOVATION WEBSITE: www.InnovAidOnline.net
JUST PUBLISHED!!: Concept Research In Food Product Design & Development
http://store.blackwell-professional.com/0813824249.html
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: "Rabbinic Genealogy SIG"
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:30 AM
Subject: Re:[ravsig] R' Yosef CHARIF


> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> *** Please Help JewishGen ***
> *** Revive Your Ancestry and Keep Us Alive ***
> http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> On 2004.04.27, R.C. Klein <> wrote:
>
> > [...] It is supposedly known that R' Yosef CHARIF is a
> > descendant of the TaZ (and BaCH) and ReMA. I would like to know
> > if this lineage is documented and exactly how many generations are
> > there between those Gedolim and him and what the names of those in
> > between.
>
> Gutten Moed,
>
> This is info that I have on a R' Yosef "Charif" Stern-Lichtig. He
> was an ancestor of my cousin, Rabbi Yosef Asher Weiss, today, Rosh
> HaYeshiva at Yeshivas Ohr Hadas (in Staten Island). His cousin (not
> mine) is married to one of the daughters of the Klausenberger Rebbe
> in Kiryat Sanz, Israel.
>
> They related to me that this R' Yosef "Charif" (of Zborov, Slovakia)
> was the son of the Lubliner Rebbe. R' Yosef "Charif" had a son
> R' Meir ASH, who had a daughter Sarah ASH. She married R' Tzvi WEISS
> (1818 - 1897) who was Ruv in Dumbrov & Zborov. They had a son R'
> Moshe WEISS (1850 - 1916) who had a son R' Yosef WEISS (c.1874-
> c.1928) and was Ruv in Zborov. He had a son Moshe WEISS (1900?- 1944
> PIH) of Salush (Vino-Gradov), Slovakia. He was my cousin's
> grandfather.
>
> For more info on this family you can contact me privately. I
> would also like to know if your ECKSTEIN research might have any
> connection to the Bnei Yissoschur. You can see info on this branch
> in my tree at:
> http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/eckstein/eckstein.htm
>
> Moishe Miller
> Brooklyn, NY
> moishe@langsam.com
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> RavSIG is part of JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
> Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org/Rabbinic/
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:14 AM
To: 'moishe@langsam.com'
Subject: re: CHARIF and ECKSTEIN

Do you have any sources which say that R' Binyamin Eliezer UNGAR-AUERBACH was a son-in-law of Rabbi Yosef Charif, or do you know where I could look? Also, do you have the years which Rabbi Charif lived and any more biographical information about him?

Regarding the Ecksteins, all I know is that my great-grandmother Chaya Zlata Mermelstein nee Klein nee Friedman (who married my great-grandfather Mordechai Klein) was the daughter of Eliezer Friedman and Devorah Eckstein, and that supposedly Eckstein was a known descendant of the Noam Elimelech, but I can't find out anything more about this anywhere.

Gut Moyd,
=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:06 PM
To: 'Avrohom Klein'
Subject: RE: shalom

ok I'll change all three things in my personal records, but I don't know when I'm going to get around to change it on the websites so it might be a few days until that's done.

Have a Chag Kosher V'Sameach

PS I'm excited to await the tolodos


=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add |IM )
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Avrohom Klein [mailto:ak@ksh.name]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:54 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: shalom


Dear Reuven Chaim

I saw now on the list of my daughter FRUMA GITTEL ====Please amend to FRIMET and my son's name is SHLOIMA ZALMEN not Avrohom Shloima Zalmen because my name is Avrohom

Kol Tuv

Avrohom Klein

----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Klein
To: 'Avrohom Klein'
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: shalom

It turns out that I met your brother when I was in New York in the summer.





=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add |IM )
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Avrohom Klein [mailto:ak@ksh.name]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:19 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: shalom


My brothers phone number is 718 435 9839 At work 201 865 4606 His name is Reb Leibel Klein ask him to contact to Harav Hershi Spielman or to his father Rav Mordechai Spielman Shlita,

I will Bli neder send you a copy of the Kinterus shortly

Kol Tuv

Avrohom Klein
London

----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Klein
To: 'Avrohom Klein'
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: shalom

you forgot to give me your brother's phone number and here's my address so that you can mail me the toldos:

Reuven Chaim Klein
12366 Chandler Blvd.
Valley Village, CA 91607
USA

Have a Chag Kosher V'Sameach,



=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Avrohom Klein [mailto:ak@ksh.name]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:14 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: shalom


Dear Reb Reuven Chaim

Could you please contact on 011 44 7976 723 608 regarding your ???? ?????

Wishing you and family a Freilichen Yom Tov

Avrohom Klein
LONDON

----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Klein
To: AK@KSH.name
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:01 AM
Subject: shalom

Shalom Aleichem Avrohom Moshe Yosef!

I just noticed that you posted a comment on my genealogy website and that you would appreciate contacting me. I am in Yeshiva almost all the time but next week we have Bein HaZmanim and perhaps we can talk then. Until then we can exchange emails if you want.

A Gut Voch and a Gutten Chodesh,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:52 AM
To: 'Avrohom Klein'
Subject: RE: shalom

It turns out that I met your brother when I was in New York in the summer.




=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add |IM )
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Avrohom Klein [mailto:ak@ksh.name]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:19 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: shalom


My brothers phone number is 718 435 9839 At work 201 865 4606 His name is Reb Leibel Klein ask him to contact to Harav Hershi Spielman or to his father Rav Mordechai Spielman Shlita,

I will Bli neder send you a copy of the Kinterus shortly

Kol Tuv

Avrohom Klein
London

----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Klein
To: 'Avrohom Klein'
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: shalom

you forgot to give me your brother's phone number and here's my address so that you can mail me the toldos:

Reuven Chaim Klein
12366 Chandler Blvd.
Valley Village, CA 91607
USA

Have a Chag Kosher V'Sameach,



=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Avrohom Klein [mailto:ak@ksh.name]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:14 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: shalom


Dear Reb Reuven Chaim

Could you please contact on 011 44 7976 723 608 regarding your ???? ?????

Wishing you and family a Freilichen Yom Tov

Avrohom Klein
LONDON

----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Klein
To: AK@KSH.name
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:01 AM
Subject: shalom

Shalom Aleichem Avrohom Moshe Yosef!

I just noticed that you posted a comment on my genealogy website and that you would appreciate contacting me. I am in Yeshiva almost all the time but next week we have Bein HaZmanim and perhaps we can talk then. Until then we can exchange emails if you want.

A Gut Voch and a Gutten Chodesh,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 11:24 AM
To: 'Avrohom Klein'
Subject: RE: shalom

you forgot to give me your brother's phone number and here's my address so that you can mail me the toldos:

Reuven Chaim Klein
12366 Chandler Blvd.
Valley Village, CA 91607
USA

Have a Chag Kosher V'Sameach,


=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Avrohom Klein [mailto:ak@ksh.name]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:14 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: shalom


Dear Reb Reuven Chaim

Could you please contact on 011 44 7976 723 608 regarding your ???? ?????

Wishing you and family a Freilichen Yom Tov

Avrohom Klein
LONDON

----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Klein
To: AK@KSH.name
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:01 AM
Subject: shalom

Shalom Aleichem Avrohom Moshe Yosef!

I just noticed that you posted a comment on my genealogy website and that you would appreciate contacting me. I am in Yeshiva almost all the time but next week we have Bein HaZmanim and perhaps we can talk then. Until then we can exchange emails if you want.

A Gut Voch and a Gutten Chodesh,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:59 AM
To: 'Avrohom Klein'
Subject: RE: shalom

http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/




=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Avrohom Klein [mailto:ak@ksh.name]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:14 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: shalom


Dear Reb Reuven Chaim

Could you please contact on 011 44 7976 723 608 regarding your ???? ?????

Wishing you and family a Freilichen Yom Tov

Avrohom Klein
LONDON

----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Klein
To: AK@KSH.name
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:01 AM
Subject: shalom

Shalom Aleichem Avrohom Moshe Yosef!

I just noticed that you posted a comment on my genealogy website and that you would appreciate contacting me. I am in Yeshiva almost all the time but next week we have Bein HaZmanim and perhaps we can talk then. Until then we can exchange emails if you want.

A Gut Voch and a Gutten Chodesh,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:39 AM
To: 'Avrohom Klein'
Subject: RE: shalom

my phone number is 1-818-980-0235




=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Avrohom Klein [mailto:ak@ksh.name]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:14 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: shalom


Dear Reb Reuven Chaim

Could you please contact on 011 44 7976 723 608 regarding your ???? ?????

Wishing you and family a Freilichen Yom Tov

Avrohom Klein
LONDON

----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Klein
To: AK@KSH.name
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:01 AM
Subject: shalom

Shalom Aleichem Avrohom Moshe Yosef!

I just noticed that you posted a comment on my genealogy website and that you would appreciate contacting me. I am in Yeshiva almost all the time but next week we have Bein HaZmanim and perhaps we can talk then. Until then we can exchange emails if you want.

A Gut Voch and a Gutten Chodesh,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 9:01 PM
To: 'Nathan Rosenshein'
Subject: RE: you have a new relative

I barely have any dates

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Rosenshein [mailto:nrosen@total.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 7:13 PM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: you have a new relative



you forgot to answer question 2...
a gutten chodesh

nr



R.C. Klein wrote:

> His email address is on my site somewhere
>
> =====
> Reuven Chaim Klein
> President of Kleins' Web Designs
> AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
> MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
> Websites:
> http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
> http://Rachack.tripod.com
> http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
> http://rachack.blogspot.com
>
> (Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on
> Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)
>
> Surnames being researched:
> In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called
> Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
> ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
> In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
>>From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES
>




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan Rosenshein [mailto:nrosen@total.net]
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 12:20 AM
> To: R.C. Klein
> Subject: Re: you have a new relative
>
>
> questions:
> 1 how do i reach this chaim greenberger?
> 2- how do i download your gedcom file WITH DATES OF BIRTH, DEATH, ETC?
> thx
> nr
>
>
>
> R.C. Klein wrote:
>
>>Reb Nosson, you cuaght just as I was about to go to sleep. My GEDCOM file
>
> is
>
>>up for download on my family website the site is
>>http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins and the URL GEDCOM file is
>>http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/tree/family.ged I live in Los
>>Angeles and attend Yeshiva full time. My main source for the family tree I
>>have now is a man named Chaim Greenberger who I met over the internet and
>
> is
>
>>distantly related to me. I am the Reuven Chaim Klein on the tree who is
>
> the
>
>>son of Mordechai Meir Klein (not to be confused with my g-grandfather
>>Mordechai Klein). I merged Mr. Greenberger's tree with my own research and
>>fused them into one tree so some of the stuff is my own research, some was
>>his, and a lot of it was common information that we both had on our trees.
>>(Also he spelled things differently than I did so it was some work putting
>>names together like Klien and Klein and Beinhorn and Bienhorn and Azriel
>
> and
>
>>Ezriel, etc...) Please send me your family tree so I can analyze it and
>
> find
>
>>some common points between yours and mine. I hope I gave you enough
>>information. I look forward to reading your response IY"H on Friday when I
>>get back home.
>>
>>Gut Voch,
>>
>>=====
>>Reuven Chaim Klein




Original Message-----
>>From: Nathan Rosenshein [mailto:nrosen@total.net]
>>Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:42 PM
>>To: R.C. Klein
>>Subject: you have a new relative
>>
>>
>>
>>hi reuven,
>>
>>I beleive we have corresponded in the past, but am not sure if
>>we determined our connection. Now that I have looked at your gedcom
>>file, I am starting to see it.....
>>
>>Firstly, which reuven klein are you ? There are several on the tree!
>>
>>Although I have only briefly looked at your details, the rosensheins are
>>the names that stand out , obviously...
>>
>>by the way, its rosenshein - or more correctly rosenschein, not
>
> rosenshien.
>
>>chaya hermina rosenschein born abt 1875 was my relative.
>>Her spouse yitzchak grinberger was your relative.
>>This is the first connection that I noticed between our families....
>>(there may be more).
>>This seems to make us pretty close relatives, by the way....
>>
>>I also see that yitzchak rosenschein born 1952, who married varda kadul
>>(not 100% sure abt that last name, I have kadul and u seem to have
>>something a bit different) ...anyhow, this yitzchak seems to be another
>>common relative....
>>
>>Would it be possible to get your family tree maker file (or gedcom, if
>>you dont have ftm) with all the dates in it? I would be willing to give
>>you my ftm file, with my relatives (abt 2600 of them!)
>>This would enable us to examine more closely for more links that we
>
> share...
>
>>Where do u live? And are u in yeshiva full time?
>>Who are your sources for your information?
>>
>>
>>pls let me know about all the above and I hope to
>>explore this with you in greater detail. I notice that each of us has
>>information that can help the other......
>>
>>awaiting your reply (next motzai shabbos, i guess)
>>
>>nathan
>>(reb nosson)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>R.C. Klein wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I sent this out on friday, but I noticed that I neglected to put a
>>>subject in the email message. Perhaps someone will make use of my
>>>findings for their own research or to help others.
>>>Shalom Aleichem!
>>>
>>>It took me a few weeks, but last night I finally finished integrating my
>>>family tree into a bigger tree from a major researcher. It was very
>>>difficult becase we spelled things differently (like Klein and Klien,
>>>and Beinhorn and Bienhorn, and Azriel and Ezriel, etc...) but I was in
>>>the end able to come out with one big family tree. I remember last
>>>time I was exchanging research with another person, we had some trouble
>>>with the different formats, so I uploaded this new and improved family
>>>tree to my new (and improved) website in six different formats. The URL
>>>for my site is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins and on the
>>>sidebar are links to download the family tree in the six formats.
>>
>>
>>>Additionally, I'm testing out a new idea for my genealogy research and
>>>family tree development. This is a php/MySQL program called myfamily
>>>that I'm starting to use, so as a test I uploaded my new GED file into
>>>it and came up with a whole site. The URL for that
>>>http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/myfamily/ and you will need to
>>>sign in. I created for everyone a username (it is "guest") and a
>>>password (it is also "guest") if anyone decides that want to be a bigger
>>>part of this, then please email me back and I will make you your own
>>>username for the site.
>>
>>
>>Please feel free to look around on that site and
>>through the family tree I made and email me any corrections/comments.
>>
>>Thank you and Gut Shabbos,
>>Reuven Chaim Klein


From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:39 PM
To: 'BSIPRES@aol.com'
Subject: RE: Klein search

I don't think so. But I have a website http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins check there perhaps you will find something. My KLEIN family are descendants of the Shenos Chaim (Reuven Chaim Klein ZT"L)

Gut Shabbos,


=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add |IM )
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: BSIPRES@aol.com [mailto:BSIPRES@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 12:22 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: re: Klein search



I found your search on Jewishgen. My mother was a Klein (Susan, zhuzhi) from Munkacs; her parents - father was Michael, mechal and mother was Regina,rifka. They were well off owning a farm with tobacco, etc and were involved in a gift/jewlery business. I believe she was one of 12 children amongst which were siblings Chayu, Tuli, Ari, Cili (married a Kallush).

If there are any similarities with your search, please contact me.

Regards
Martin Greenstein
Framingham, MA

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 12:18 AM
To: 'Klein Collection'
Subject: RE: Family

Yasher Koach for the pictures I plan to put them on the site when I have some extra time (hopefully by Bein HaZmanim). Please tell me a bit about you and your family and share some of your genealogical research with me.

Gut Voch,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Klein Collection [mailto:thekleincollection@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 1:18 PM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: Family


Hi Reuven,

Thanks for the email. The site looks great, although I have'nt had a chance to fully go through it. I am attaching photos I took of R' Reuven Chaim Klein's, Z"L, Baal HaMechaber Sefer "Shnos Chaim" Kever. I was at his Kever in Vienna together with my grandfather (Shnos Chaim's, Z"L, Great-Grandson) last Shavuos. Feel free to upload them to your website.
Best Regards,
Sasha Klein



"R.C. Klein" wrote:

I sent this out on friday, but I noticed that I neglected to put a subject in the email message. Perhaps someone will make use of my findings for their own research or to help others.
Shalom Aleichem!

It took me a few weeks, but last night I finally finished integrating my family tree into a bigger tree from a major researcher. It was very difficult becase we spelled things differently (like Klein and Klien, and Beinhorn and Bienhorn, and Azriel and Ezriel, etc...) but I was in the end able to come out with one big family tree. I remember last time I was exchanging research with another person, we had some trouble with the different formats, so I uploaded this new and improved family tree to my new (and improved) website in six different formats. The URL for my site is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins and on the sidebar are links to download the family tree in the six formats. Additionally, I'm testing out a new idea for my genealogy research and family tree development. This is a php/MySQL program called myfamily that I'm starting to use, so as a test I uploaded my new GED file into it and came up with a whole site. The URL for that http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/myfamily/ and you will need to sign in. I created for everyone a username (it is "guest") and a password (it is also "guest") if anyone decides that want to be a bigger part of this, then please email me back and I will make you your own username for the site. Please feel free to look around on that site and through the family tree I made and email me any corrections/comments.

Thank you and Gut Shabbos,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES




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From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 12:17 AM
To: 'Nathan Rosenshein'
Subject: RE: you have a new relative

Reb Nosson, you cuaght just as I was about to go to sleep. My GEDCOM file is up for download on my family website the site is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins and the URL GEDCOM file is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/tree/family.ged I live in Los Angeles and attend Yeshiva full time. My main source for the family tree I have now is a man named Chaim Greenberger who I met over the internet and is distantly related to me. I am the Reuven Chaim Klein on the tree who is the son of Mordechai Meir Klein (not to be confused with my g-grandfather Mordechai Klein). I merged Mr. Greenberger's tree with my own research and fused them into one tree so some of the stuff is my own research, some was his, and a lot of it was common information that we both had on our trees. (Also he spelled things differently than I did so it was some work putting names together like Klien and Klein and Beinhorn and Bienhorn and Azriel and Ezriel, etc...) Please send me your family tree so I can analyze it and find some common points between yours and mine. I hope I gave you enough information. I look forward to reading your response IY"H on Friday when I get back home.

Gut Voch,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Rosenshein [mailto:nrosen@total.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:42 PM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: you have a new relative



hi reuven,

I beleive we have corresponded in the past, but am not sure if
we determined our connection. Now that I have looked at your gedcom
file, I am starting to see it.....

Firstly, which reuven klein are you ? There are several on the tree!

Although I have only briefly looked at your details, the rosensheins are
the names that stand out , obviously...

by the way, its rosenshein - or more correctly rosenschein, not rosenshien.

chaya hermina rosenschein born abt 1875 was my relative.
Her spouse yitzchak grinberger was your relative.
This is the first connection that I noticed between our families....
(there may be more).
This seems to make us pretty close relatives, by the way....

I also see that yitzchak rosenschein born 1952, who married varda kadul
(not 100% sure abt that last name, I have kadul and u seem to have
something a bit different) ...anyhow, this yitzchak seems to be another
common relative....

Would it be possible to get your family tree maker file (or gedcom, if
you dont have ftm) with all the dates in it? I would be willing to give
you my ftm file, with my relatives (abt 2600 of them!)
This would enable us to examine more closely for more links that we share...

Where do u live? And are u in yeshiva full time?
Who are your sources for your information?


pls let me know about all the above and I hope to
explore this with you in greater detail. I notice that each of us has
information that can help the other......

awaiting your reply (next motzai shabbos, i guess)

nathan
(reb nosson)




R.C. Klein wrote:

> I sent this out on friday, but I noticed that I neglected to put a
> subject in the email message. Perhaps someone will make use of my
> findings for their own research or to help others.
> Shalom Aleichem!
>
> It took me a few weeks, but last night I finally finished integrating my
> family tree into a bigger tree from a major researcher. It was very
> difficult becase we spelled things differently (like Klein and Klien,
> and Beinhorn and Bienhorn, and Azriel and Ezriel, etc...) but I was in
> the end able to come out with one big family tree. I remember last
> time I was exchanging research with another person, we had some trouble
> with the different formats, so I uploaded this new and improved family
> tree to my new (and improved) website in six different formats. The URL
> for my site is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins and on the
> sidebar are links to download the family tree in the six formats.

> Additionally, I'm testing out a new idea for my genealogy research and
> family tree development. This is a php/MySQL program called myfamily
> that I'm starting to use, so as a test I uploaded my new GED file into
> it and came up with a whole site. The URL for that
> http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/myfamily/ and you will need to
> sign in. I created for everyone a username (it is "guest") and a
> password (it is also "guest") if anyone decides that want to be a bigger
> part of this, then please email me back and I will make you your own
> username for the site.

Please feel free to look around on that site and
through the family tree I made and email me any corrections/comments.

Thank you and Gut Shabbos,
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs

> AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add
> |IM
> website!>)
> MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com
> and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
>
> Websites:
> http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
> http://Rachack.tripod.com
> http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
> http://rachack.blogspot.com
>
> (Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me
> email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)
>
> Surnames being researched:
> In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village
> called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo):
> ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
> In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
> From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


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From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:18 PM
To: 'CZA Main'
Subject: RE: my grandfather

So does this mean that the Family Research people will help me find the information? I'm just a kid looking into my grandfather's history with your organization, I do not have money to pay researchers nor do I have the wherewithal to get someone in Israel to visit the archives. Perhaps I will be able to personally go there in the end of Aug. when I visit Israel. If I do, would I have to make an appointment and will there be someone there to help me around?

Gut Voch,


=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Rubinstein, Rochelle [mailto:rocheller@jazo.org.il] On Behalf Of CZA Main
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 11:19 PM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: RE: my grandfather


Reuven Chaim Klein

Before I relate to your actual request I should say that your request is familiar to me - I think that we have already received it and that it was forwarded to the Family Research Section here at the Central Zionist Archives. They check the genealogical databases we hold, while I here in my reply will relate to the files of correspondence which we hold.

In these correspondence files, we do not hold specific lists or files of the various workers of the JA over the years in the various countries.

In order to locate documents relating to the your grandfather's work at the JA, you - or someone working on your behalf - would have to visit the Archives, go through our lists, order files relating to Zionist activity and the functioning of the various Zionist offices in Vienna and Austria, and page through the files to see if there is perhaps correspondence with, or relating to, your grandfather. There is no guarantee that you will find relevant documents.

You no doubt understand that we cannot do research of this nature for the public. If you like I could suggest someone familiar with our holdings who might be interested in doing the research. All the arrangements - including the financial ones - would then be between you and the researcher.

And finally, as many of our listings now appear on Internet, you can get a good idea of the type of material available at the CZA. Once you've accessed our site (the address appears below), click on "Information & search" and then on "Holdings" in order to read about our collections, and on "Search" in order to carry out a search on the lists. Try the terms "Vienna" and "Austria", for instance, but bear in mind that most of our lists are in Hebrew (even if the documents in the files are in other languages) so you should search using Hebrew terms too.

Sincerely,
Rochelle Rubinstein
Deputy Director - Archival matters

Rocheller@jazo.org.il
Central Zionist Archives
POBox 92
Jerusalem 91000
Tel.:972-2-6204816
Fax: 972-2-6204837
Please visit our new site at: http://www.zionistarchives.org.il

-----Original Message-----
From: R.C. Klein [ mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 8:22 PM
To: Research, Family; CZA Main
Subject: my grandfather
To whom this may concern:
My late grandfather was a worker for the former Jewish Agency for Palestine. His name was Reuven Chaim Klein, or as he was known to the secular world, Rudolph (or Randolph) Klein. Attached to this letter, in PDF format, is an article printed in the New York Times (June 23, 1941) about my grandfather. It tells that he was released from jail under Nazi command because his services were needed by the Jewish Agency for Palestine in Vienna. He then served in the British and American armies during World War Two. The article makes mention of a brother of his who fought in the British army in then-Palestine. It isn't known who this is a reference to, perhaps the Agency knows of my grandfather's family and who this brother of his was and anything about his family. My grandfather passed away in 1968 when my father was a mere child. I would like to ask if the Jewish Agency for Israel, the successor to the Jewish Agency for Palestine, has any records regarding my grandfather's employment for the Agency and/or anything else that might relate to my grandfather such as his personal history, the exact nature of his "mission" for the Agency in Austria (or at least a general idea of what he did), or anything that just has my grandfather's name in it. I would like to please request from the Agency to pass along copies of any such records or information to me either via email or postal mail. My postal address can be given upon request and confirmation of the existence of such information about my grandfather. If the Agency or the person who reads this letter does not have access to such information or records, can he or she please pass or forward this letter on to someone of such power and/or refer me to such a person or resource? I would really like to understand more about that period of time and about who my namesake and grandfather was and what he did.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Reuven Chaim Klein (III)

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:12 PM
To: 'Y. Klausner'
Subject: RE: Noam Elimelech - 20433

I know this probably isn't proper genealogy etiquette nor do you probably want to give me an answer because I'm asking so much from you, but would be please be able to tell me who your source is on this information so that I might be able to contact that researcher and discuss some of my researcher with him/her. It surely wasn't mean because I spell those names differently. (Assuming that you even keep a record of from whom you get your databse entries) And also, if I may ask how to do you store your research? I'm always having problems with other researchers using different formats than I, but your "text-only" way seems efficient and takes up a smaller amount of space.

Gut Voch and thank you,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: Y. Klausner [mailto:yklaus@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 11:33 PM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: Noam Elimelech - 20433


MessageTo Reuven Chayim Shalom u'Bracha,
Enclosed I am sending to you the descendant list of Eliezer FRIEDMAN
(D92906.txt). Nor Eliezer nor Dvora have any ancestors listed in my DB.
Best regards Yehuda

DESCENDANTS OF: Eliezer FRIEDMAN 28-Mar-2005 PAGE 1

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14

* Eliezer FRIEDMAN #92906 [2016] m. Dvora ECKSTEIN #92907 [2016]
. * Chaya Zlata b'Eliezer FRIEDMAN #90238 [2016] m. Mordechay KLEIN
#90239 [2016]
. . m. Shlomo MERMELSTEIN
#90236 [2016]
. . * Reuven Chayim b'Mordechay KLEIN #90240 [2016] m. Unknown
UNKNOWN #90241 [2016]
. . . * Unknown b'Reuven Chayim KLEIN #90242 [2016] m. Unknown
UNKNOWN #118 [53]
. . . . m. Unknown
UNKNOWN #90243 [2016]
. . . . * Reuven Chayim KLEIN #90244 [2016]

Numbers marked with # are ID code numbers of the person. You may always
refer to the persons by their ID numbers #.
Numbers in square brackets [ ] are the numbers of the references.
The location of the asterisk * behind the dots represents the number of the
generation.
The data is as good as my references if you find any mistakes, errors,
discrepancies that may impair my data please inform me.

Join the Israel Genealogical Society (IGS) and receive our bi-lingual
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Dr. Yehuda Klausner
yklaus@netvision.net.il
yehudakl@bgumail.bgu.ac.il
klausner@alumni.princeton.edu

Searching:
KLAUSNER (KLAUZNER, CLOISNER, KLUZNER, etc.), BARZAM, KADISH, BUSHKE
(BOSHKE), ZEINWIRT (ZENVIRT),
EILENBERG (ILENBERG), LIEBERMAN (all spellings), WITKIND, HOCHGELEHRNTER
(GELEHRNTER), ENGLMAN (ENGELMAN), IROM (IRAM)
TEUMIM, MICHELSON Great Britain, South Africa, Rhodesia etc.),
Descendants of Moshe ben Meir KATZNELENBOGEN of Chelm, HERLING,
KATZ, (HaCOHEN, KAHANE, COHEN, etc.) from Galicia, GRINBERG (all spellings).



----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Klein
To: 'Y. Klausner'
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:52 AM
Subject: RE: Noam Elimelech - 20433


I apologize if you sent me an email in June and I did not respond. I was
just looking back at my records and I can't find any emails from you during
last June, so probably I must've deleted it right away or my spam filter ate
it up because I don't even remember emailing you before last December. Is it
possible that you mistook me for someone else? You said in an email in
December that you have Eliezer FRIEMMAN & Dvora ECKSTEIN in your database
and you said it's either information that you learned through me (which it
wasn't) or through someone else (which is probably was), so I am asking if
you can maybe check your database and found out more about the ansectery of
these two.


Thank you so much for all your help so far, and I'm sorry to keep bothering
you

Kol Tuv,
=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on
Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called
Kleczanev or Klyachanovo):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES
-----Original Message-----
From: Y. Klausner [mailto:yklaus@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:49 AM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: Noam Elimelech - 20433


To Reuven Chayim Shalom,
I don't know what I can send you. Part of the information I got from you and
part from other sources.
I sent you all the information I know. However I found that my request for
further information from 25 June 2004 remained without reply.
Best regards and have a good day Yehuda

Join the Israel Genealogical Society (IGS) and receive our bi-lingual
Journal
"Sharsheret Hadorot"
Society branches are in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa, Negev (Beer Sheva),
Netanya.
ehfurman@netvision.net.il

Dr. Yehuda Klausner
yklaus@netvision.net.il
yehudakl@bgumail.bgu.ac.il
klausner@alumni.princeton.edu

Searching:
KLAUSNER (KLAUZNER, CLOISNER, KLUZNER, etc.), BARZAM, KADISH, BUSHKE
(BOSHKE), ZEINWIRT (ZENVIRT),
EILENBERG (ILENBERG), LIEBERMAN (all spellings), WITKIND, HOCHGELEHRNTER
(GELEHRNTER), ENGLMAN (ENGELMAN), IROM (IRAM)
TEUMIM, MICHELSON Great Britain, South Africa, Rhodesia etc.),
Descendants of Moshe ben Meir KATZNELENBOGEN of Chelm, HERLING,
KATZ, (HaCOHEN, KAHANE, COHEN, etc.) from Galicia, GRINBERG (all spellings).




From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 8:52 PM
To: 'Y. Klausner'
Subject: RE: Noam Elimelech - 20433

I apologize if you sent me an email in June and I did not respond. I was just looking back at my records and I can't find any emails from you during last June, so probably I must've deleted it right away or my spam filter ate it up because I don't even remember emailing you before last December. Is it possible that you mistook me for someone else? You said in an email in December that you have Eliezer FRIEMMAN & Dvora ECKSTEIN in your database and you said it's either information that you learned through me (which it wasn't) or through someone else (which is probably was), so I am asking if you can maybe check your database and found out more about the ansectery of these two.


Thank you so much for all your help so far, and I'm sorry to keep bothering you

Kol Tuv,
=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add |IM )
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: Y. Klausner [mailto:yklaus@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:49 AM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: Noam Elimelech - 20433


To Reuven Chayim Shalom,
I don't know what I can send you. Part of the information I got from you and part from other sources.
I sent you all the information I know. However I found that my request for further information from 25 June 2004 remained without reply.
Best regards and have a good day Yehuda

Join the Israel Genealogical Society (IGS) and receive our bi-lingual Journal
"Sharsheret Hadorot"
Society branches are in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa, Negev (Beer Sheva),
Netanya.
ehfurman@netvision.net.il

Dr. Yehuda Klausner
yklaus@netvision.net.il
yehudakl@bgumail.bgu.ac.il
klausner@alumni.princeton.edu

Searching:
KLAUSNER (KLAUZNER, CLOISNER, KLUZNER, etc.), BARZAM, KADISH, BUSHKE
(BOSHKE), ZEINWIRT (ZENVIRT),
EILENBERG (ILENBERG), LIEBERMAN (all spellings), WITKIND, HOCHGELEHRNTER
(GELEHRNTER), ENGLMAN (ENGELMAN), IROM (IRAM)
TEUMIM, MICHELSON Great Britain, South Africa, Rhodesia etc.),
Descendants of Moshe ben Meir KATZNELENBOGEN of Chelm, HERLING,
KATZ, (HaCOHEN, KAHANE, COHEN, etc.) from Galicia, GRINBERG (all spellings).




From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:27 AM
To: Atara Klein; Spielman, Chaim, ALABS; Edith Klein; Elana and Shlomo Kravitz; Elly Klein; Michael Klein; moishe goldmunz; nrosen@total.net; Szori and Laci Blau; Yossi Klein; 'MarkWG@att.net'; 'Steven B. Schwartz'; 'fairholt@ask-klein.co.uk'; 'thekleincollection@yahoo.com'; 'moishe@langsam.com'; 'margalittesler@skynet.be'; 'dgg2020@comcast.net'
Subject: Family

I sent this out on friday, but I noticed that I neglected to put a subject in the email message. Perhaps someone will make use of my findings for their own research or to help others.
Shalom Aleichem!

It took me a few weeks, but last night I finally finished integrating my family tree into a bigger tree from a major researcher. It was very difficult becase we spelled things differently (like Klein and Klien, and Beinhorn and Bienhorn, and Azriel and Ezriel, etc...) but I was in the end able to come out with one big family tree. I remember last time I was exchanging research with another person, we had some trouble with the different formats, so I uploaded this new and improved family tree to my new (and improved) website in six different formats. The URL for my site is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins and on the sidebar are links to download the family tree in the six formats. Additionally, I'm testing out a new idea for my genealogy research and family tree development. This is a php/MySQL program called myfamily that I'm starting to use, so as a test I uploaded my new GED file into it and came up with a whole site. The URL for that http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/myfamily/ and you will need to sign in. I created for everyone a username (it is "guest") and a password (it is also "guest") if anyone decides that want to be a bigger part of this, then please email me back and I will make you your own username for the site. Please feel free to look around on that site and through the family tree I made and email me any corrections/comments.

Thank you and Gut Shabbos,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:16 AM
To: 'yklaus@netvision.net.il'
Subject: An old issue
Attachments: RE ravsig Noam Elimelech-2004.txt

You and I exchanged emails around December time about my great-grandmother's parents and their family. But you never responded to my last email dated Jan. 15. I attached the whole email exchanged between us and I hope that you will please be able to write me back with the exact progeny of this branch of my family going back to the Noam Elimelech. I've been doing alot of research and have basically come out with two sites which you can look at if you want. One is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins and the other is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/myfamily perhaps you will be able to use the outcome of my findings for your own research or to help others.

Thank you very much in advance,


=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

From: kleinboys [kleinboys@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:07 AM
To: 'rachack@futurecities.com'; Les Barany
Subject: Fwd: Family

I sent this to you on friday, but the email bounced back at me. So I'm trying again.

-----Original Message-----
From: R.C. Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 12:58 PM
To: Agi Zwick; Atara Klein; Spielman, Chaim, ALABS; Edith Klein; Elana and Shlomo Kravitz; Elly Klein; Les Barany; Malka and Dani Zwick; Michal and Ari Gruen; Michael Klein; moishe goldmunz; nrosen@total.net; Szori and Laci Blau; Yossi Klein; 'MarkWG@att.net'; 'Steven B. Schwartz'
Subject:



Shalom Aleichem!

It took me a few weeks, but last night I finally finished integrating my family tree into a bigger tree from a major researcher. It was very difficult becase we spelled things differently (like Klein and Klien, and Beinhorn and Bienhorn, and Azriel and Ezriel, etc...) but I was in the end able to come out with one big family tree. I remember last time I was exchanging research with another person, we had some trouble with the different formats, so I uploaded this new and improved family tree to my new (and improved) website in six different formats. The URL for my site is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins and on the sidebar are links to download the family tree in the six formats. Additionally, I'm testing out a new idea for my genealogy research and family tree development. This is a php/MySQL program called myfamily that I'm starting to use, so as a test I uploaded my new GED file into it and came up with a whole site. The URL for that http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/myfamily/ and you will need to sign in. I created for everyone a username (it is "guest") and a password (it is also "guest") if anyone decides that want to be a bigger part of this, then please email me back and I will make you your own username for the site. Please feel free to look around on that site and through the family tree I made and email me any corrections/comments.

Thank you and Gut Shabbos,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein




From: kleinboys [kleinboys@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:03 AM
To: Les Barany
Subject: FW: Family

I sent this to you on friday, but the email bounced back at me. So I'm trying again.

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

-----Original Message-----
From: R.C. Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 12:58 PM
To: Agi Zwick; Atara Klein; Spielman, Chaim, ALABS; Edith Klein; Elana and Shlomo Kravitz; Elly Klein; Les Barany; Malka and Dani Zwick; Michal and Ari Gruen; Michael Klein; moishe goldmunz; nrosen@total.net; Szori and Laci Blau; Yossi Klein; 'MarkWG@att.net'; 'Steven B. Schwartz'
Subject:


Shalom Aleichem!

It took me a few weeks, but last night I finally finished integrating my family tree into a bigger tree from a major researcher. It was very difficult becase we spelled things differently (like Klein and Klien, and Beinhorn and Bienhorn, and Azriel and Ezriel, etc...) but I was in the end able to come out with one big family tree. I remember last time I was exchanging research with another person, we had some trouble with the different formats, so I uploaded this new and improved family tree to my new (and improved) website in six different formats. The URL for my site is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins and on the sidebar are links to download the family tree in the six formats. Additionally, I'm testing out a new idea for my genealogy research and family tree development. This is a php/MySQL program called myfamily that I'm starting to use, so as a test I uploaded my new GED file into it and came up with a whole site. The URL for that http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/myfamily/ and you will need to sign in. I created for everyone a username (it is "guest") and a password (it is also "guest") if anyone decides that want to be a bigger part of this, then please email me back and I will make you your own username for the site. Please feel free to look around on that site and through the family tree I made and email me any corrections/comments.

Thank you and Gut Shabbos,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:58 PM
To: Agi Zwick; Atara Klein; Spielman, Chaim, ALABS; Edith Klein; Elana and Shlomo Kravitz; Elly Klein; Les Barany; Malka and Dani Zwick; Michal and Ari Gruen; Michael Klein; moishe goldmunz; nrosen@total.net; Szori and Laci Blau; Yossi Klein; 'MarkWG@att.net'; 'Steven B. Schwartz'

Shalom Aleichem!

It took me a few weeks, but last night I finally finished integrating my family tree into a bigger tree from a major researcher. It was very difficult becase we spelled things differently (like Klein and Klien, and Beinhorn and Bienhorn, and Azriel and Ezriel, etc...) but I was in the end able to come out with one big family tree. I remember last time I was exchanging research with another person, we had some trouble with the different formats, so I uploaded this new and improved family tree to my new (and improved) website in six different formats. The URL for my site is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins and on the sidebar are links to download the family tree in the six formats. Additionally, I'm testing out a new idea for my genealogy research and family tree development. This is a php/MySQL program called myfamily that I'm starting to use, so as a test I uploaded my new GED file into it and came up with a whole site. The URL for that http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/myfamily/ and you will need to sign in. I created for everyone a username (it is "guest") and a password (it is also "guest") if anyone decides that want to be a bigger part of this, then please email me back and I will make you your own username for the site. Please feel free to look around on that site and through the family tree I made and email me any corrections/comments.

Thank you and Gut Shabbos,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:41 PM
To: 'chaim greenberger'
Subject: Family Tree info

Shalom Aleichem!

It took me a few weeks, but last night I finally finished integrating my family tree into yours. It was very difficult becase we spelled things differently (like Klein and Klien, and Beinhorn and Bienhorn, and Azriel and Ezriel, etc...) but I was in the end able to come out with one big family tree. I remember last time we had some trouble with the different formats, so I uploaded this new and improved family tree to my new (and improved) website in six different formats. The URL for my site is http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins and on the sidebar are links to download the family tree in the six formats. Additionally, I'm testing out a new idea for my genealogy research and family tree development. This is a php/MySQL program called myfamily that I'm starting to use, so as a test I uploaded my new GED file into it and came up with a cool site. The URL for that http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/myfamily/ and you will need to sign in. I created for you a username (it is "chaimg") and a password (it is "chaim") it already knows your email address. Please feel free to look around on that site and through the family tree I made and email me any corrections/comments.

Thank you and Gut Shabbos,



=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 11:22 AM
To: 'familyresearch@jazo.org.il'; 'cza@jazo.org.il'
Subject: my grandfather
Attachments: rklein.pdf

To whom this may concern:



My late grandfather was a worker for the former Jewish Agency for Palestine. His name was Reuven Chaim Klein, or as he was known to the secular world, Rudolph (or Randolph) Klein. Attached to this letter, in PDF format, is an article printed in the New York Times (June 23, 1941) about my grandfather. It tells that he was released from jail under Nazi command because his services were needed by the Jewish Agency for Palestine in Vienna. He then served in the British and American armies during World War Two. The article makes mention of a brother of his who fought in the British army in then-Palestine. It isn't known who this is a reference to, perhaps the Agency knows of my grandfather's family and who this brother of his was and anything about his family. My grandfather passed away in 1968 when my father was a mere child. I would like to ask if the Jewish Agency for Israel, the successor to the Jewish Agency for Palestine, has any records regarding my grandfather's employment for the Agency and/or anything else that might relate to my grandfather such as his personal history, the exact nature of his "mission" for the Agency in Austria (or at least a general idea of what he did), or anything that just has my grandfather's name in it. I would like to please request from the Agency to pass along copies of any such records or information to me either via email or postal mail. My postal address can be given upon request and confirmation of the existence of such information about my grandfather. If the Agency or the person who reads this letter does not have access to such information or records, can he or she please pass or forward this letter on to someone of such power and/or refer me to such a person or resource? I would really like to understand more about that period of time and about who my namesake and grandfather was and what he did.

Thank you in advance for your help,

Reuven Chaim Klein (III)
of Klein's Homepage

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 11:21 AM
To: 'tamars@jazo.org.il'
Subject: my grandfather
Attachments: rklein.pdf

To whom this may concern:



My late grandfather was a worker for the former Jewish Agency for Palestine. His name was Reuven Chaim Klein, or as he was known to the secular world, Rudolph (or Randolph) Klein. Attached to this letter, in PDF format, is an article printed in the New York Times (June 23, 1941) about my grandfather. It tells that he was released from jail under Nazi command because his services were needed by the Jewish Agency for Palestine in Vienna. He then served in the British and American armies during World War Two. The article makes mention of a brother of his who fought in the British army in then-Palestine. It isn't known who this is a reference to, perhaps the Agency knows of my grandfather's family and who this brother of his was and anything about his family. My grandfather passed away in 1968 when my father was a mere child. I would like to ask if the Jewish Agency for Israel, the successor to the Jewish Agency for Palestine, has any records regarding my grandfather's employment for the Agency and/or anything else that might relate to my grandfather such as his personal history, the exact nature of his "mission" for the Agency in Austria (or at least a general idea of what he did), or anything that just has my grandfather's name in it. I would like to please request from the Agency to pass along copies of any such records or information to me either via email or postal mail. My postal address can be given upon request and confirmation of the existence of such information about my grandfather. If the Agency or the person who reads this letter does not have access to such information or records, can he or she please pass or forward this letter on to someone of such power and/or refer me to such a person or resource? I would really like to understand more about that period of time and about who my namesake and grandfather was and what he did.

Thank you in advance for your help,

Reuven Chaim Klein (III)
of Klein's Homepage

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:36 PM
To: 'chaim greenberger'
Subject: RE: its a girl

Mazel tov!

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: chaim greenberger [mailto:chaimgreenberger@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:46 AM
To: brian brom; velvi greenberger; Ofer Guetta; reuven chaim klein; eliyahu tendler
Subject: its a girl


be shevach ve hodayah le Hashem Yisborach

my firstborn daughter was born this morning.

may we only hear simchos from one another

chaim and naomi greenberger

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From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 5:52 PM
To: 'moishe goldmunz'
Subject: my plan

Contacts: moishe goldmunz

I have printed out 120 pages which is the entire backup of my genealogical research (which you can see at http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/backp.html ). Your mother-in-law Mrs. Beinhorn has asked me to send her my whole website because she has no access to the internet. I could theoretically make copies of those 120 pages and mail it to her, but that would be very inconvenient for me and would cost a lot of money. I am asking if you could please print out that webpage and give it to her rather than have me do it for those reasons. If you don't want to do it (which I can understand why not), then please tell me by the end of this week and I will make copies of the printouts which I have now and then will mail it to her.

Thank you for your understanding and Kol Tuv,
=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 10:52 AM
To: 'fairholt@ask-klein.co.uk'
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: family

His email address is kleinyossi@yahoo.com

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: fairholt@ask-klein.co.uk [mailto:fairholt@ask-klein.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 10:48 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: family



I am happy to hear that u got it.
did you become clever with the imformation in the book?
by the way,please let me know the address and tel. number of your uncle
in beth shemesh


all the best!
From: fairholt@ask-klein.co.uk
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 10:48 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: family


I am happy to hear that u got it.
did you become clever with the imformation in the book?
by the way,please let me know the address and tel. number of your uncle
in beth shemesh


all the best!
From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 10:14 AM
To: 'chaim greenberger'
Subject: RE: help

No I don't know how to use DoroTree. But, you can download GenoPro Beta (http://www.genopro.com/beta) and open that XML file with it. That's what I use

Kol Tuv,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: chaim greenberger [mailto:chaimgreenberger@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:57 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: help



do you know how i can see the family tree
on my dorotree.



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From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:56 AM
To: 'chaim greenberger'
Subject: RE: mark greenberger

good

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: chaim greenberger [mailto:chaimgreenberger@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:53 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: RE: mark greenberger



shalom

i was just about to ask what are you doing at home.

thanks for the quick reply ,i will still have to look
at it ,i hope i can read it.
i also just recieved an e- mail from w greenberger
he is my cousin , also a decendent of moishe
greenberger the brother in law of the shnos chaim
kol toov

chaim greenberger

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From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:41 AM
To: 'chaim greenberger'
Subject: RE: mark greenberger
Attachments: family.xml

Oh sorry, I forgot to send it (I'm not in Yeshiva today because I'm going to a chasuna) I attached the xml file with my family tree on it and dit has yours in it also. You misspelled Klein and wrote Klien each time, so I fixed it for you.

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: chaim greenberger [mailto:chaimgreenberger@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:28 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: RE: mark greenberger



shalom ! reuven chaim

thanks!

i will let you know!

i am stil waiting for your family tree ,if you could
send it.
thanks

chaim




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From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:58 PM
To: 'chaim greenberger'
Subject: RE: mark greenberger

His email address is MarkWG@att.net please let me know if you find out anything.

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: chaim greenberger [mailto:chaimgreenberger@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 11:42 AM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: RE:



--- chaim greenberger
wrote:

>
> dear reuven chaim
> gut voch .
> i am sorry about that
> i hope this time you will be able to open the file
> whith ged com.
>
>do you have the e mail of w
> greenberger ?
>
>
> it would be nice to see your family tree i am
unable to
> get it throu the web.
>
> chaim greenberger



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From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:41 PM
To: 'fairholt@ask-klein.co.uk'
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: family

Got it

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: fairholt@ask-klein.co.uk [mailto:fairholt@ask-klein.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 7:12 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: family



Dear R.C.
As soon as u recieve the book please let me know.
All the best!
From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 10:29 PM
To: 'batial@jazo.org.il'
Subject: FW: My grandfather worked for the Agency
Attachments: Rudolph Klein.pdf

To whom this may concern:
My late grandfather was a worker for the former Jewish Agency for Palestine. His name was Reuven Chaim Klein, or as he was known to the secular world, Rudolph (or Randolph) Klein. Attached to this letter, in PDF format, is an article printed in the New York Times (June 23, 1941) about my grandfather. It tells that he was released from jail under Nazi command because his services were needed by the Jewish Agency for Palestine in Vienna. He then served in the British and American armies during World War Two. The article makes mention of a brother of his who fought in the British army in then-Palestine. It isn't known who this is a reference to, perhaps the Agency knows of my grandfather's family and who this brother of his was and anything about his family. My grandfather passed away in 1968 when my father was a mere child. I would like to ask if the Jewish Agency for Israel, the successor to the Jewish Agency for Palestine, has any records regarding my grandfather’s employment for the Agency and/or anything else that might relate to my grandfather such as his personal history, the exact nature of his “mission” for the Agency in Austria (or at least a general idea of what he did), or anything that just has my grandfather’s name in it. I would like to please request from the Agency to pass along copies of any such records or information to me either via email or postal mail. My postal address can be given upon request and confirmation of the existence of such information about my grandfather. If the Agency or the person who reads this letter does not have access to such information or records, can he or she please pass or forward this letter on to someone of such power and/or refer me to such a person or resource? I would really like to understand more about that period of time and about who my namesake and grandfather was and what he did.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Reuven Chaim Klein (III)
of Klein’s Homepage



=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack ( Add| IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES
-----Original Message-----
From: DanielleP@jazo.org.il [mailto:DanielleP@jazo.org.il]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:55 AM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: RE: My grandfather worked for the Agency



Dear Mr. Klein,

After receiving your letter concerning finding information about your late Grandfather, Mr. Reuven Chaim Klein, we asked the Zionist Archives to attempt and find any relevant information.

They searched through the Genealogical data resources and unfortunately did not come up with relevant information. However, since you mentioned that he was active in the Vienna office, there may be information in the hundreds of files documenting the activity of the office at the said period of time. Searching through this material would require dozens of hours and even if researched through, there is still no guarantee that material will be found.

If you do wish to pursue this option and provide a researcher on your behalf, you may contact Ms. Batia Leshem at the Zionist Archives for guidance and consultation at: batial@jazo.org.il

We wish you success and regret that we cannot do more.

Sincerely,

Danielle




-----Original Message-----
From: R.C. Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 12:47 AM
To: casuja@aol.com; sarite@jazo.org.il; Moshev@jazo.org.il; joshs@jazo.org.il; alanh@jazo.org.il; marki@jazo.org.il; jeffk@jazo.org.il; lapide@jazo.org.il; asafs@jazo.org.il; ayelets@jazo.org.il; rhodas@jazo.org.il; dubibergman@jazouk.org; menachemr@jazo.org.il; yehudaw@jazo.org.il
Subject: My grandfather worked for the Agency
To whom this may concern:
My late grandfather was a worker for the former Jewish Agency for Palestine. His name was Reuven Chaim Klein, or as he was known to the secular world, Rudolph (or Randolph) Klein. Attached to this letter, in PDF format, is an article printed in the New York Times (June 23, 1941) about my grandfather. It tells that he was released from jail under Nazi command because his services were needed by the Jewish Agency for Palestine in Vienna. He then served in the British and American armies during World War Two. The article makes mention of a brother of his who fought in the British army in then-Palestine. It isn't known who this is a reference to, perhaps the Agency knows of my grandfather's family and who this brother of his was and anything about his family. My grandfather passed away in 1968 when my father was a mere child. I would like to ask if the Jewish Agency for Israel, the successor to the Jewish Agency for Palestine, has any records regarding my grandfather’s employment for the Agency and/or anything else that might relate to my grandfather such as his personal history, the exact nature of his “mission” for the Agency in Austria (or at least a general idea of what he did), or anything that just has my grandfather’s name in it. I would like to please request from the Agency to pass along copies of any such records or information to me either via email or postal mail. My postal address can be given upon request and confirmation of the existence of such information about my grandfather. If the Agency or the person who reads this letter does not have access to such information or records, can he or she please pass or forward this letter on to someone of such power and/or refer me to such a person or resource? I would really like to understand more about that period of time and about who my namesake and grandfather was and what he did.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Reuven Chaim Klein (III)
of Klein’s Homepage
From: R.C. Klein [rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:10 PM
To: 'chaim greenberger'
Subject: RE:

I am unable to read the .dte file which you sent me. I'm assuming it's in the doro tree format and not in ged or genopro's xml and when I opened it in MS Notepad, I got a bunch of garbeled text.

Gut Voch,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: chaim greenberger [mailto:chaimgreenberger@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 10:41 AM
To: R.C. Klein
Subject: RE:





dear reuven chaim

gut voch !
here in eretz isroel it is already motzei shabbes.

i sent you my family file it is on ged com. it also
includes other parts of my family ,so go to index and
write reuven chaim klien ,there are five ,one is
probably you. the first one is the shnos chaim.
would you be able to give me the e-mail of w
greenberger ?

there were mermelstin also from strebisho-gronda

have you read the book "beyond the tracks" by ruth
mermelstien nee grunberger ? her husbands family is
from strebichov and she is from munkach.

gut voch
chaim greenberger

it would be nice to see your family tree

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Saturday, December 24, 2005
RE: correct
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 10:45 PM
To: 'Betzalel & Dvori Mandel'
Cc: Nrosen@Total. Net (nrosen@total.net)
Subject: RE: correct


To Mr. Mandel,

Mazel Tov on the Baby Boy!!

Sorry for taking so long to write you back. I almost forgot about that php program I got for my family tree. It's very neat. On the chart I am http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/myfamily/individual.php?pid=ind00003&ged=family.ged so I guess you can figure out my progeny from there. A large bulk of the family tree on the Klein's Genealogy site was not made by me but was researched through a different man I met over the internet and we merged our findings. Your entry was included. I am carbon cpoying this message to him. Most of that chart was made at least two years ago, so it does need updating, something which I rarely ever have time to do nowadays.

Gut Voch and have a Freilichin Chanuka,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)




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From: Betzalel & Dvori Mandel [mailto:btmandel@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:43 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Cc: Tatty
Subject: correct


Hi this is betzalel mandel writing to you from moscow. I see that I am on your geneoligy chart http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/myfamily/family.php?famid=fam00425, please allow me to add my children
Batsheva born Jerusalem october 7 2001 (20 tishrei 5762)
Serel Shaindel born Jerusalem Sep 23 2003 (27 elul 5763)
unnaed baby boy born Moscow Russia Sunday dec 18 2005 17 kislev 5766 stay tuned for name, bris on sunday Dec 25.

by the way who are you? I assume you are a klein ainekel of the ackermans?

Betzalel Mandel
posted by Rachack at 4:45 PM | 1 comment(s)
Saturday, December 10, 2005
RE: Machon Hayuchson
-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 10:14 PM
To: 'Nathan Rosenshein'
Subject: RE: Machon Hayuchson

In my tree, I only have the second daughter you mentioned (and I have the last name as "Shank", but that's probably because I took it out of the 1987 Shenos Chaim printed by Mrs. Beinhorn which was written in Ivris without any nekkudos so I horribly mispronounced the name), Rivka Chana whose son Naphtuli Beinhorn married Mrs. Beinhorn. I don't have any years for anyone on my charts, so I can't really help you. I know nothing of this "Bash" family, so I can't really be of much help. I'm sorry to disappoint you. If you find out, please share.

Gut Voch and thank you for contacting me again,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Rosenshein [mailto:nrosen@total.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:00 PM
To: Reuven Chaim Klein
Subject: Re: Machon Hayuchson


she claims that eliezer and ruchel shnek had a dtr mirim who married
ezra yakov bash
and another dtr rivka chana that married meir beinhorn

meir was her father in law.....

i am having trouble understanding this as my information seems to show
that these two "sisters(??)" were at born 50-70 years apart!!!!!

what do u know about this?

thx

nr




Reuven Chaim Klein wrote:
> Actually, when I went to Eretz Yisroel in the summer, I went with my father,
> brother and first-cousin to Geula to visit Mrs. Beinhorn. I had previously
> obtained a copy of her book from another genealogical researcher in Englang
> who I found was related to me.
>
> Gut Voch,
>
> =====
> Reuven Chaim Klein
> http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
> Vice President
> AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
>
> (Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei
> Shabbos.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan Rosenshein [mailto:nrosen@total.net]
> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 7:56 PM
> To: Reuven Chaim Klein
> Subject: Re: Machon Hayuchson
>
> actually, i was thinking of you because i got some new information from
> the klein branch (yours) via chaya sara klein-beinhorn, of israel.
>
> she wrote a book, which i have obtained a copy of...
>
> are u aware of all this?
>
> be well
>
> nr
>
posted by Rachack at 10:14 PM | 0 comment(s)
RE: The JewishGen Family Finder:
-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 10:07 PM
To: 'bloche@nonstop.net.il'
Subject: RE: The JewishGen Family Finder:

Early into my research I have discovered that there were numerous Mermelstein families in Munkatch. The names that you sent me do not match any of the names which I have found in my research. I made entire site devoted to my research ( http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins ) please check there and see if any of my information looks familiar to you. The family is actually from a suburb of Munkatch known as Kleczanev. The patriarch of the Mermelstein family which I am researching was Reb Shlomo Mermelstein (1870-1944). (I am not actually a descendant of the Mermelstein family, however, my great-grandmother, Chaya Zlata Klein nee Friedman, married Reb Shlomo upon the death of my great-grandfather, Mordechai Klein. Chaya Zlata and Shlomo's first child, Mordechai was born in 1917, so that sort of tells you when this occurred.)

Gut Voch and thank you for contacting me,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Eyal Bloch [mailto:JGJGFF@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 11:33 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: The JewishGen Family Finder:


- From : Eyal Bloch, (researcher code 81103) bloche@nonstop.net.il
- To : Reuven Chaim Klein, (researcher code 106665)
- Subject : The JewishGen Family Finder:
=======================================================
my family mermelstein comes from mukachevo.we had a printing shop before ww1.therehwhere 3 brothers and 1 sister .their parents are wolf & GITLE MERMELSTEIN.2 BROTHERS DIED IN WW1, THE OTHER BROTHER WAS A TAILOR AND PARISHED WITH HIS SISTER AT WW2.many descendents are all the world around.
what is your conection???
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Saturday, December 03, 2005
RE: Machon Hayuchson
-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 8:18 PM
To: 'Nathan Rosenshein'
Subject: RE: Machon Hayuchson

Actually, when I went to Eretz Yisroel in the summer, I went with my father, brother and first-cousin to Geula to visit Mrs. Beinhorn. I had previously obtained a copy of her book from another genealogical researcher in Englang who I found was related to me.

Gut Voch,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Rosenshein [mailto:nrosen@total.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 7:56 PM
To: Reuven Chaim Klein
Subject: Re: Machon Hayuchson

actually, i was thinking of you because i got some new information from
the klein branch (yours) via chaya sara klein-beinhorn, of israel.

she wrote a book, which i have obtained a copy of...

are u aware of all this?

be well

nr




Reuven Chaim Klein wrote:
> Shalom! It's been a while since we last communicated.
>
> If you get any information about this organization, can you please share
> it with me? it sounds interesting.
>
> Gut Voch,
>
> =====
> Reuven Chaim Klein
> http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
> Vice President
> AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add
> |IM
> )
>
> (Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and
> Motzei Shabbos.)
>
>
> Subject: Machon Hayuchson
>
> From: Nathan Rosenshein
>
> Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 01:48:34 -0500
>
> X-Message-Number: 2
>
> Dear All,
>
> Has anyone heard of the New York based organization Machon
>
> Hayuchson? This organization apparently has information on many
>
> branches of prominent Rabbinic Families, and is (or was) run by one
>
> Rabbi Halberstam.
>
> I am interested in getting in touch with them. Any ideas? If anyone
>
> has any knowledge or experience with this organization, it may be
>
> interesting to hear details of what they do, how they operate, and
>
> what your experience has been with them.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Nathan Rosenshein,
>
> Montreal, Canada
>
> Researching the following Rabbinic families:
>
> Bais Yitzchak (Svaliaver Rav) - WEISS/WEISZ from Munkacs area
>
> Olomer Ruv - FRIEDMAN from Carpathian area
>
> Spinker - WEISS/WEISZ from Romania or Carpathian area
>
> Tosher Rebbe - LOWY from Nyirtas/Nyirtash, Hungary
>
> Chuster Rebbe - LOWY from Chust in Carpathia
>

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Sunday, October 30, 2005
IM Conversations with David Mermelstein (dvmerm)
Participants: me, Dvmerm
Date: Oct 27 2005 - 3:47pm

me: Hi
Dvmerm: do I know you?
me: = rachack
Dvmerm: incognito?
me: i meant to use this screename
me: sorry for the confusion
Dvmerm: So you are still in HS Yeshiva?=where?
me: that's a good question
me: I can
me: can't give a definite yes or no answer to it
me: :
me: I finished HS, but I lack a diploma until June
me: So now I'm in Beis Midrash
me: but it's really 12th grade without secular classes
me: because i finished all my secular classes already
Dvmerm: are you going to do yr in Israel?
me: but dont have a diploma yet
me: perhaps
me: but not next year (as of now)
Dvmerm: Have you applied to colleges?
me: no
me: At this point, I don't beleive in college
Dvmerm: what are you waiting for? the moshiach?
me: yes
Dvmerm: Hope you are not disapointed
me: i hope so too
me: Next year I'm going to go to Beis Midrash again
me: I'm just not sure where: either here in LA, or somewhere on the East Side.
Dvmerm: what do you want to be when you grow up?
me: I don't know
me: yet
Dvmerm: Did your father or uncle go into the diamond trade?
me: my father did
me: but he stopped that many years ago
Dvmerm: so that is not an option
me: at this point almost anything can be an option
me: but it most likely not something i'd do
me: what do you do?
Dvmerm: I think a year in Israel would do you good-my son went to a dati yeshiva at Maale Gilboa in the Gallilee
Dvmerm: I'm a real estae developer/speculator
me: in philly?
me: Did your son learn in Philly?
Dvmerm: yes and s jersey shore area
me: Did your son learn in Philly?
me: Alot of people are telling me to go to Philly next year
Dvmerm:
me: oh
Dvmerm: and do what?
me: learn in Philly
Dvmerm: At the talmudical yeshiva?
me: ya
me: by Rav Shmuel Kaminetsky
Dvmerm: Kaminetzky knows our family-my dad knew all the gadolim in philly
Dvmerm: I thought it was only a hs program
me: They have a Bais Midrash too
Dvmerm: I havn't been out there in years
me: a lot of those who leave LA go there
me: is it far fro myou?
me: *from you?
Dvmerm: Other side of town 45 min
Dvmerm: You have closer cousins close by-Uncle Benci's daughter Susan
me: my Rosh Yeshiva learned in Philly, as did my current Rebbe
Dvmerm: It's better known out of philly-our kid
Dvmerm: go to baltimore
me: to Ner Yisroel?
me: I'm not interested in that place
Dvmerm: Don't know the names
Dvmerm: your fam lives in brooklyn?
me: my immediate family (mom, dad, 2 bros) live in LA
me: my paternal grandmother lives in Boro Park with her 2 sisters
Dvmerm: when did they move there?
me: to LA?
me: my father moved to LA in 1982
me: met my mother in NY in 1985 and got married
Dvmerm: So your bubby-Rudy's wife is still alive?
me: B"H
me: yes
Dvmerm: Give her my regards tell her Louie and Julie's oldest from Philly-I sure she was a t my Bar Mitzvah
me: next I speak to her
me: (probably 2morrow)
Dvmerm: So you live at the yeshiva?
me: during the week
me: i come home from friday afternoon until early sunday morning
me: most weeks
Dvmerm: Do you ever run into any of Mordcha kids
me: what's their last name?
Dvmerm: Sol Mermelstein,Yudel-susy Rosenberg Leibowich
Dvmerm: Nelly still is in Boro park
me: maybe my cousin Stegg in Boro Park knows them
me: before last summer, I haven't been to Boro Park in 10 years
Dvmerm: Crazy Maxie?
me: (last summer = Summer 2004)
me: yup, Maxie
me: although, I don't think he's crazy
Dvmerm: strange dude
me: why do you say that?
Dvmerm: Still a momma'a boy
me: His mother passed away 10 years ago.
Dvmerm: and he is still a momma's boy
Dvmerm: I know him a long time
me: huh? :-$
me: at least you know that he's a genuis
me: he knows about every topic under the sun
Dvmerm: He is bright but short on social graces
me: anyways...
Dvmerm: I'll try to get in touch w/you when we come up to see Adina in Man-buy you lunch or dinner
me: in Man?
Dvmerm: up w side
me: manhatten?
Dvmerm: yes-96 &west end
me: I live in Los Angeles
Dvmerm: I thought you were in NY yeshiva duh
me: and you thought I come home every week form NY? lol
Dvmerm: well if you decide to come see philly let me know
me: you are religious, right?
Dvmerm: conservadox-not black hat but shabbat and kosher home
me: oh
me: but you don't support gay rabbis and female aliyahs right?
Dvmerm: no gay rabbis-no problem w/women aliyahs
me: i see
me: we'll have to debate this some time
me: I have to go.
Dvmerm: bye
Date: Oct 29 2005 - 7:31pm

Dvmerm: shavuah tov
Ah Yesss 01: gut voch
Ah Yesss 01: how was your shabbos?
Dvmerm: It was nice had a big shabbat dinner w/friends at the shul -about 90 people
Ah Yesss 01: cool
Ah Yesss 01: we had a lunch in shul
Ah Yesss 01: my cousin (maternally) has a baby girl
Dvmerm: this morning they gave me hagba-parshat bereshit all the weght on the left and I am right handed
Ah Yesss 01: ouch
Dvmerm: we have a bunch of kibitzers on the back row that give scores for the lift like in the olympics gave me 9.0
Ah Yesss 01: LOL
Dvmerm: did you talk to your bubby?
Ah Yesss 01: actually i didn't
Ah Yesss 01: i was very tired on friday, so i slept alot of the day
Dvmerm: I know she will remember my dad-not sure if she remembers me
Ah Yesss 01: (waking up before myshyakir does that)
Ah Yesss 01: my father remembers your father
Dvmerm: Uncle Bob/Beirish died last year and was buried in Israel-my son Avi went with Renee to the Leveya to represent the family from philly
Ah Yesss 01: ya i remember when Uncle Bob died
Ah Yesss 01: my father remembers your father as "Uncle Louie"
Dvmerm: Aunt milly is the last of that generation alive -she is in her 90's
Ah Yesss 01: Aunt Mirian is also still alive B"H
Ah Yesss 01: I saw her when I went to NY
Ah Yesss 01: Miriam*
Ah Yesss 01: but she wasn't a sibling, just married one
Dvmerm: Yes but she was married into the family not an original
Ah Yesss 01: i just said that
Dvmerm: you type faster-I'm old remember?
Ah Yesss 01: lol
Dvmerm: My father was closest w/Bob and Morcha -even though they were his uncle the were close in age and grew up more like brothers
Dvmerm: We just got back in from dinner and a music concert-I'm going to watch Sat night live-talk to you later
posted by Rachack at 12:51 PM | 1 comment(s)
Saturday, October 29, 2005
RE: Family Tree
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Schwartz [mailto:sschwartz@mail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 9:05 PM
To: R.C. Klein
Cc: Yossi Klein
Subject: RE: Family Tree

Here is my corrected Family Tree. Thanx for the corrections. Hope everyone
had good yomim tovim, and we should all have a good, healthy year.

Steve Schwartz

(attachment Family Tree (2).doc):
THE FAMILY OF REB SHLOMO MERMELSTEIN
(1870-1944*)
1st wife
R
I
V
K
A
L
E
A
H
1875-1915
Yechiel Dovid 1895‑1945*
m. Rochel 1904‑1944*
Lilly b. 1923
m. Morris Taus b. 1917
Rita b. 1947
m. Mitchell Gardener b. 1944
Stacey b. 1969
m.
David b. 1972
Moshe 1925-1927
Louie 1927-1990
m. Julie 1929-199_
David b. 1951
m. Ivy b. 1952
Leah b. 1978
m. Shimmy Stein b. 1977
Yonina b. 2003
Avi b. 1979
Adina b. 1982
Sol b. 1953
m.1 Cynthia b. 1953
m.2 Amy b. 1964
Steven b. 1980
Eric b. 1981
Robin b. 1983
Karen b. 1985
Brian b. 2001
Jeffrey b. 1957
m. Bonnie b. 1960
Ali b. 1987
Scott b. 1989
Lisa b. 1992
Marlene b. 1960
Shirley b. 1929
m. Sam Don 1927‑1991
Ruthie b. 1950
m. Aaron Shevlin b. 1950
Amy b. 1981
Samara b. 1992
Sidney b. 1954
m. Paula b. 1955
Sophie b. 199_
Rene b. 1959
m. Denis Boni b. 1958
Erica b. 1988
Daniel b. 1990
Roslyn b. 1962 m. Arthur Kiron
Shaindel 1929-1929 [born w/ 1 arm]
Sholom 1931-1944*
Malka 1932‑1944*
Hershel 1933‑1938*
Malia 1935‑1944*
Yudel 1939‑1944* also Hershel, Moshe?
Esther 1899‑1944*
m. Shmuel Mermelstein
1889‑1944*
Lilly 1920-2002
m. Mendel Feller 19__‑198_
[Mendel's daughter by 1st wife]
Esther 1955-1984
m. Chaim Markovitz b. 19__
Simcha Chaim’s 2nd wife
Yaakov b. 1976
Ruthi b. 1977
Rochel b. 1977
Dina b. 1984
Tzippy b. 19__
m. Avi Linzen b. 19__
_______ b. 19__
_______ b. 19__
Frieda b. 1924
m. Dave Dvorak 1918-2003
Stanley b. 1950
m. Bertha b. 19__
Doron b. 1976
Ilana b. 1980
Rene b. 1960
m. Efraim Bainvoll b. 1955
Ayal b. 1987
Edon b. 1992
Liat b. 1996
Bayla (Bushka) b. 1928
m. David Trachtenberg 1924‑1986
Shmuel 1948-1950
Shlomo b. 1950
m. Bela b. 1950
Shira b. 1977
Yatam b. 1983
Esther b. 1955
m. Charlie Varley
Dvorah 1925‑1939 [scarlet fever]
Ilana 1930‑1944*
Helen (Chaichu) 1932‑1944*
Molly (Monyika) 1934‑1944*
1st wife
R
I
V
K
A
L
E
A
H
[continued]
1875-1915
Rose b. 1902-199?
m. Morris Weiss 1901‑1957
Harold b. 1926
m. Joanne b. 1928
Danny b. 1951
m. Lisa b. 1951
Jordan b. 1978
Jody b. 1982
Joey 1953-1981
Michael b. 1962
Albie b. 1928
m. Freda b. 1931
Amy b. 1951
m. Marshall Zeidel b. 1951
Andrea b. 1976
Briana b. 1980
Nicole b. 1982
Lisa b. 1957
m. Neil Breitbart b. 1951
Mitchell b. 1981
Wesley b. 1982
Bernard b. 1932
m. Elaine b. 1938
Steven b. 19__
m. ___________
Margie b. 1963
m. ___________
David b. 1934
m. Ruthie b. 1939
Jeffrey b. 1965
Michael b. 1966
Renee b. 1943
m1. Brian Allen b. 1940
Marla b. 1963
Stacey b. 1964
m2. Jim Ketchum
b. 1938
Sara 1908‑1944*
m. Itzak Wurzberger
19__‑19__
Eliezer 1933‑1944*
Rivka Leah 1934‑1944*
Malia 1936‑1944* +2 more kids?
Bernard 1910‑1996
m1. Helen 1912‑1980
Myrna b. 1947
Susan b. 1948
m. Michael Etkin b. 1947
Jennifer b. 1975
Allison b. 1977
m. Michael Rubin b. 1974
m2. Gizi b. 19__
Milly b. 1912
m. Jay Schwartz 1920‑1981
Renee b. 1945
m. Harvey Douglen b. 1941
Aviva b. 1969
m. Yaakov Goldberg b. 1965
Yitzchak b. 1994
Chana b. 1996
Chaim b. 2000
Chaya b. 2003
Judah b. 1971
m. Lilach b. 1976
Tzlil b. 2000
Idan b. 2002
Avi b. 1975
m. Maya b. 1975
Emette b. 1998
Achva b. 2001
Tovah b. 1978
m. Avichai Agai b. 1997
Netanel b. 2000
Gilad b. 2003
Steven b. 1950
m. Mali b. 1951
David b. 1975
Tani b. 1978
Jackie b. 1986
Debbie b. 1990
Simcha 1915‑194?*
2nd wife
CHAYA ZLATA [children from 1st husband MORDECHAI KLEIN 18__‑19__]
Fayge 1909-1996
m1. Izzie Steg
19__-1972
Max (Mordechai) b. 19__
m. Judy b. 19__
m2. Shimon Sarna 19__-____
Rudy 1910‑1968
m. Rose b. 1928
Michael b. 1961
m. Edith b. 1958
Rudy b. 1987
Avi b. 1989
Yerucham b. 1997
Joseph (Yossi) b. 1962
m. Debra b. 1964
Atarah b. 1989
Reuven Chaim b. 1992
Meira Leah b. 1994
Yonina Chagit b. 1999
2nd wife
C
H
A
Y
A
Z
L
A
T
A
18__-1934
Mordechai 1917‑1987
m. Nellie b. 19__
Helen b. 1952
m. Abe Diamont b. 19__
Chana b. 1977
m. Yeruchim Levilev
Freida Leah b. 1998
Dvorah b. 1978
m. Mendy Shapiro b.
Faige b. 1999
Bayla b. 1981
m. Hillel Vogel b.
Shloime b. 1983
Yussie b. 1985
Sara b. 1990
Shloime b. 1956
Debbie b. 1957
m. Allen Leibowitz b. 1951
Chaya Sara b. 1980
Meir b. 1981
Shloime b. 1983
Eliezer b. 1987
Yehudis Rochel b. 1989
Zlata b. 1991
Susie b. 1960
m. Shloime Rosenberg b. 1959
Shimon Eliezer b. 1981
Chaya b. 1983
Leah Rivka b. 1989
Mordechai b. 1997
Yehuda b. 1967
Aharon Shmuel 1919‑1978
m. Miriam b. 1928
Shloime b. 1959
m. Leah b. 1965
Chana b. 1990
Malka b. 1992
Aharon b. 1995
Moishe b. 1966
Rivka Leah 1920‑19__*
married?
Yussie 1922-2000
Bob 1926(?)-2004
m. Chava b. 1937
Steven b. 1957
m. Leora b. 1959
Jonathan b. 1989
Alan b. 1960
m. Bruriah b.
(from 1st husband) Elisa b.
(from 1st husband) Daniel b.
Jacob b.
Heshie 1928‑1944*
3rd wifeCHAYA18__‑1944*
[children from 1st husband __________ WEISS
18__-19__]
Malka Bluma b. 19__
______________ b. 19__
______________ b. 19__
Mordechai Aharon b. 1919
______________ b. 19__
______________ b. 19__
______________ b. 19__
*Perished in Holocaust


-----Original Message-----
From: R.C. Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 4:55 PM
To: Steven B. Schwartz
Cc: Yossi Klein
Subject: FW: Family Tree

Yossi asked me to tell you about some of his hagahos on your Family Tree, so
I'm forwarding you his email.

Kol Tuv,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
President of Kleins' Web Designs
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
MSN Passport/email: Rachack@futurecities.com and Anakin9000@yahoo.com
Websites:
http://Kleins.100megsfree5.com
http://Rachack.tripod.com
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
http://rachack.blogspot.com

(Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me email on
Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of this.)

Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called
Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
>From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES


-----Original Message-----
From: Yossi Klein [mailto:kleinyossi@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:18 AM
To: Reuven Klein
Subject: Family Tree


Corrections to Steve's family tree. (I had sent these
to him a long while back, but he didn't update the
tree. Perhaps, he'll do it if you tell him).

My father died in 1968 (not in 1967).
My name is spelled Yossi (not Yussie).
Meira was born in 1994
Yonina was born in 1999.
My wife's name is Debra (not Deborah).
Debra was born in 1964.
If Yonina is Yonina Chagit and Meira is Meira Leah,
then Reuven should be Reuven Chaim.

Love,
UY

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posted by Rachack at 9:05 PM | 0 comment(s)
Thursday, October 27, 2005
RE: (no subject)
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:58 AM
To: 'Dvmerm@aol.com'
Subject: RE: (no subject)


I was aware that "Sholom Rav" means much peace, but I was unaware at the time that it was sometimes used as a greeting (i.e. I've never really seen it used as a greeting in present days). At that time, I was somewhat getting annoyed at people on a forum that I visited who kept calling me a Rabbi even though I am not one. When we were in Israel during August for the Bar Mitzvah of our cousin Reuven Chaim Klein (Yossi Klein's son), and we planned to go to Har Nof to visit Renee, but they were very busy.

Gut Shabbos

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)




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From: Dvmerm@aol.com [mailto:Dvmerm@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:26 AM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: Re: (no subject)


I remember your dad well-my mom always trusted him when she bought jewelery-I have a copy of Steve's family tree-I keep in touch w/him his mom in lakewood and Renee in Israel-my son Avi made aliya and is in the Israeli tank corp-so we go twice a year to see him and Renee-but last time in July she was here to see her daughter in Riverdale-my oldest Leah 27 is married and lives in Georgetown Wash and has a 2 yo and one on the way in Jan-Adina our youngest just moved to Upper east side so maybe we can hookup-Dave

So you are Rudy's grand child?I'm sure I've met your Dad at Steve's family simchas-By the way-In one of the responses to you from a Yoav in Israel he adresses your name and adds Sholom Rav-you answer that you are not a Rav-the word has another meaning in Hebrew-Sholom Rav is a greeting wishing much peace-Rav=Rabah-Dave
posted by Rachack at 7:58 AM | 0 comment(s)
Wednesday, October 26, 2005
RE: (no subject)
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:17 PM
To: 'Dvmerm@aol.com'
Subject: RE: (no subject)


Actually, my name is Rudy Klein. I guess you would say my father is "Rudy Klein's kid." My father is Michael-MordechaiMeir Klein (from Boro Park/LA). I run a website about the genealogy of our family, in fact, you yourself happen to be mentioned in a family tree that I posted that was put together 10 years ago by Steven Schwartz (of NJ). The link is: http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins/2005/08/family-of-reb-shlomo-mermelstein.html

I hope you had a gut yuntiff.

Gut Shabbos,


=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)




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From: Dvmerm@aol.com [mailto:Dvmerm@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 6:50 PM
To: Rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: (no subject)


Are you Rudy Klein's kid?-I am David Mermelstein in the philly area _I am named for Yechiel Dovid-my father was Louie-LazerWolf
posted by Rachack at 9:17 PM | 0 comment(s)
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