Wednesday, September 25, 2019

[ravsig] The Rabbi of Wolbrom's Daughter

I am sending you as an attachment the most up-to-date version of my research. You will see there that the Charna that married Binyamin Eliezer was not the father of the Shenos Chaim, but was a son of his. That son was the one who lived in Svalyava, not the father. AFAIK, the father lived in Krakow.
Also, could you give me more information about your comment in fn. 5 about Freedberg having a different surname for the Shenos Chaim's father?
Also, the years you wrote don't make sense: If Binyamin Eliezer was born in 1826, then his son RCK could not have been born in 1931. And also I don't see reason to think they both died in 1873, although that was the year RCK died.

Kesiva V'Chasimah Tovah,

Reuven Chaim Klein

Beitar Illit, Israel

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On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 7:48 AM <roys18@aol.com> wrote:
Maybe this will help.
I have put together over 900 pages of descendents of Rabbi David Segal HaLevi  "Ta"Z"
I set the Ta"Z as generation T1 in my manuscript.
Alot of it may be from your research BUT I have 
Charna Segal married Rabbi Binyamin Eliezer Unger Auerbach

Chapter 5b –    Descendants of TaZ' (1586 – 1667) son -->  T2.6 Rabbi Shmuel's  (1645 - 1715) son –T3.2 R. David (1690 - 1760)
 
T3.2  Rabbi David   1690 - 1760
    T4.2  Rabbi Tzvi Hirsch Segal Stern 1767-1803 (Rabbi Tzvi Hirsch Lichtig HaLevi Stern) (called Reb Hershele Litzas) ABD Dambrava near Trani, which is where he is buried[1] [2] [3].  One tree has him marrying the daughter of Rabbi Mordechai 1530 Prague – 26 February 1612 Poznan (the Ba'al Halevushim) and her 1st husband was Shmuel Sirkes (Jaffe-Singer) 1540-1612 BUT something appears wrong here.  The first husband would place her birth at c. 1550 but her marriage to Rabbi Tzvi Hirsch Segal Stern places her birth at c.1770 {over a 200 year difference}.  The marriage to Shmuel Sirkes does not seem possible, either this is the wrong person or a descendant of this woman?
      T5.1  Rabbi Yaakov Segal Litzas (Lebenheim) 1780-1818, ABD Wohlbrum, Polin, Rosh ABD Krakow[4]
         T6.1  Charna Segal married Rabbi Binyamin Eliezer Unger Auerbach[5] 1826 Cracow – 1873 Davidkof.  Lived in Svalyava
            T7.1  Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein, Shenos Chaim[6] 1831 Mukacheve – 1873 Vienna
   married Miriam Greenberger daughter of Tzvi Dov Greenberger.  Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein was the Chief Rabbi of Nove Davydkovo (Uj-Dávidháza), Ukraine. He also authored the work "Shenos Chaim" in 1871 Lemberg, a commentary to Rabbeinu Yerucham.


[1] See Sefer Klilas Yofi page 131.
[2] Information for this branch was taken from Klein Family Genealogical Website, from an email written by Rabbi Tzvi Steinberg, Kahal Zera Avraham, Denver Colorado USA and also from www.geni.com
[3] Reuven Chaim Klein states that in Otzar HaChochma there is an additional generation and Tzvi Hirsch is the son of Rabbi Avrohom HaLevi Stern son of Rabbi David Stern son of Rabbi Shmuel Son of the TaZ
[4] Mentioned in Klilas Yofi (p.60)  and is also mentioned by the Chasam Sofer in Teshuos Chasam Sofer Chadashos, Yoreh Deah Siman 17.
[5] From an email 26 March 2004 written by Leslie Reich on www.Kleinfamilygenealogy.blogspot: "According to Chachmei Hungaria (by YY Cohen- Jerusalem 1997 p.356) R' Reuven Chaim son of Binyomin Eliezer was born in 1826 and died in Davidkof (spelling?) near Muncasz in 1873.  His family name had originally been Ungar or Auerbach but orphaned at an early age, adopted a new name.  Curiously, Freedberg's bibliographical dictionary has yet another surname for him.  (I suspect a copying error)."
[6] Also a descendent of the Rema


-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein yeshivish@gmail.com <ravsig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
To: Rabbinic Genealogy SIG <ravsig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sun, Sep 22, 2019 8:26 pm
Subject: [ravsig] The Rabbi of Wolbrom's Daughter

I am trying to figure out an excerpt from the Yizkor book about the
town of Wolbrom (near Krakow) in Poland in the section which discusses
the town's rabbi, my ancestor, Rabbi Yaakov HaLevi Segal. This excerpt
alludes to some sort of controversy over the rabbi's daughter Tovah
and the identity of her husband, but does not spell out what's going
on nor provide any citations for the controversy.
Does anybody know where I can find out more information about this?
The full page and the entire book can be accessed via the NY Public
Library's digital collections at this page:
As far as I know, my gggg-grandfather Binyamin Eliezer UNGAR-AUERBACH
married a daughter of Rabbi Yaakov Segal, but I don't know her name or
anything else about him, except that his son was Rabbi Reuven Chaim
KLEIN who served as a rabbi in Davidkoff (near Muncasz), Hungary.
Thank you very much for your help.

Reuven Chaim Klein
Beitar Illit, Israel
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