Thursday, December 29, 2016

Fwd: We're related to Miklos Gafni

Bracha ve-Hatzlocha,

Reuven Chaim Klein

Beitar Illit, Israel

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <>
Date: Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 3:20 AM
Subject: Fwd: We're related to Miklos Gafni
To: Klein Reuven <>, Klein Edith <>, Klein Michael <>
Cc: Barany Agi <>, GRUEN EDITH <>

My exchange with Gabriella Gafni.
She lives in Virginia now, with her mother, Jeanette.


Begin forwarded message:

From: Gabriella <>
Subject: Re: We're related to Miklos Gafni
Date: 29 Dec 2016 8:06:10 pm GMT-5
To: Leslie Barany <>

This is fascinating, Les Bácsi! Very confusing, but wonderful.
In all events, we are connected by heartstrings – and sometimes, that affiliation supersedes biological ties. :)


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On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 6:59 PM, <> wrote:
Hi Gabriella,

You might find the email strand below, from last May, mind-bendingly interesting.
At the time, I might have thought it too confusing to forward to you ???

As you know, Rose Klein, who lives with my mother, Sara and Laci bacsi in Brooklyn, is the 3rd Kuttner sister.
Her son, is Michael Klein in Los Angeles, and Edith Klein is his wife.
One of their 3 sons is Reuven Klein. He is a published rabbi and an avid genealogist. 

Apparently, through Reuven's mother, Edith Klein (the wife of my cousin, Michael)
there is a bloodline connecting to Miklos Gafni. 

Reuven Chaim (who lives in Israel, with a wife and 3 kids of his own) is well aware of your Dad's name, from his father (Michael) 
who remembers Miki bacsi visiting our Passover seder table and regaling the family with songs and fantastic stories. Michael also reminds us, below, that Miki was a guest at his wedding. 


Begin forwarded message:

From: Barany Leslie <>
Subject: Re: We're related to Miklos Gafni
Date: 5 May 2016 4:33:59 pm GMT-4
To: Barany Agi <>
Cc: GRUEN EDITH <>, Klein Reuven Chaim <>

Talk to Reuven. 
Family Tree facts can change your knowledge. 
Barany/Blau are not related, but through Edith Kleini, the Kleins, apparently, however distantly.


On 05 May 2016, at 4:11 pm, Agi Zwick <> wrote:

Gafni is a very close family friend but not related by blood. That is my knowledge.

On May 5, 2016 10:54 AM, Barany Leslie <> wrote:

Begin forwarded message:

From: Edith Gruen <>
Subject: Re: We're related to Miklos Gafni
Date: 4 May 2016 4:42:35 pm GMT-4
To: Michael Klein <>
Cc: RC Klein <>, Steve Gruen <>,
Barany Leslie <>, Ari Gruen <>,

This is mucho confusing but fascinating!!!

On May 4, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Michael Klein <> wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Michael Klein <>
Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2016
Subject: We're related to Miklos Gafni
To: RC Klein <>
Cc: Mommy Klein <>

That is very interesting because during Passover we were looking over my mothers wedding album and we saw him there at the wedding.  
Love dad

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, RC Klein <> wrote:

Miklos Gafni is Reuven Chaim Klein's fourth great uncle's nephew's wife's great niece's husband's first cousin's wife's first cousin's husband's son!

Reuven Chaim Klein 

Edith Bracha Klein 
your mother


Rozalia Messinger 
her mother

Jonas Yechezkel Kohn 
her father

Rochel Reichental Kohn 
his mother

her father

Pessl Herzog 
his sister

Emanuel Herzog 
her husband

Chaim Henrik Herzog 
his brother

Joseph Herzog 
his son

Miriam Mitzi Herzog 
his wife

Isidor Ezriel Azriel Pappenheim 
her brother

<private> Sternbuch (Pappenheim) 
his daughter

Mucky Adler 
her daughter

<private> Adler 
her husband

Max Adler 
his father

Sophie Lieben 
his sister

Jan Samuel Lomský 
her son

<private> Lomská (Fränkel) 
his wife

Aron (Adolf) Fränkel 
her father

Heimann Frankel 
his brother

Irena Weinstock 
his daughter

Aharon Weinstock 
her husband

Miklos Gafni 
his son

Reuven Chaim Klein
Beitar Illit, Israel
Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew (Mosaica Press) on Amazon Academia.eduGoogle Scholar LinkedINRabbi Reuven Chaim Klein on

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