Thursday, June 22, 2017

Re: Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein

You can try using JewishGen.org to search into your family's genealogy, but I do think that a connection is unlikely as Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein, author of Shenos Chaim, was the first one in the family named Klein (he adopted that last name because of a childless Klein family that hosted him when he studied at the Chasam Sofer's Yeshiva), his last name was originally Ungar-Auerbach. Good luck!

Kol Tuv,

Reuven Chaim Klein

Beitar Illit, Israel

Check out my book Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew

Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew (Mosaica Press) on Amazon Academia.eduGoogle Scholar LinkedINRabbi Reuven Chaim Klein on TorahDownloads.com


On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Klein, Joel <joel.klein@ppmamerica.com> wrote:

I really do not have any connection to that Reuven Chaim.  But, being ba'alei teshuvah, my brother Meir, hoped that there was some connection and that we had a ba'al seforim in our past.

 

As to being leviim:

 

1.       Although our father (Reuven Chaim) and grandfather (Yoel Leib) were completely frei, we were always told that we were leviim.

 

2.       This was the only shemetz of mesorah we were given and I ask myself how would they even know of being a levi if they had not been told so by their father, etc., etc.

 

3.       On the other hand, my grandfather (Jules or Julius Leopold Klein) was a very accomplished musician (cellist for the Detroit Symphony, etc.) and perhaps he created a story because of the link between his music and the leviim.

 

In the end, my brother and I are noheg as leviim because that is what we were told by our father, ob"m.  And in truth, what levi has better than that?

 

If you get to Chicago, please look me up!!

 

Yoel Leib ben Reuven Chaim ben Yoel Lieb HaLevi Klein - father of Reuven Chaim ben Yoel Leib ben Reuven Chaim ben Yoel Lieb HaLevi Klein; and hoping to not be the grandfather of Yoel Leib ben Reuven Chaim ben Yoel Leib ben Reuven Chaim ben Yoel Lieb HaLevi Klein

 

 

 



Begin forwarded message:

From: RC Klein <yeshivish@gmail.com>
Date: June 21, 2017 at 11:09:36 PM CDT
To: "Joel & Melinda" <joelandmelinda@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein

What is your connection to Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein that you mentioned who is buried in Vienna? As far as I know, he was not a Levite. You can see on his tombstone if you want, see https://www.geni.com/people/Rav-Reuven-Klein/6000000008827990400

You said your father's name is Reuven Chaim Klein, do you know what his father's name was and his father's name? Where did you father live? What makes you think you are a Levi? There are a lot of KLEIN families that are Leviim, but it doesn't seem that our family is one of them.


Kol Tuv,

Reuven Chaim Klein

Beitar Illit, Israel

Check out my book Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew

Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew (Mosaica Press) on Amazon Academia.eduGoogle Scholar LinkedINRabbi Reuven Chaim Klein on TorahDownloads.com

 

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Joel & Melinda <joelandmelinda@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Ha = Happy.  A real connection!!  Cousins!!!

 

Alas, but it is not to be.  We are leviim.  Or so we believe. 


On Jun 21, 2017, at 8:22 PM, RC Klein <yeshivish@gmail.com> wrote:

What's the "Ha!!"?

As far as I know, we are not Leviim.


Kol Tuv,

Reuven Chaim Klein

Beitar Illit, Israel

Check out my book Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew

Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew (Mosaica Press) on Amazon Academia.eduGoogle Scholar LinkedINRabbi Reuven Chaim Klein on TorahDownloads.com

 

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Joel & Melinda <joelandmelinda@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Ha!!!

 

Are you folks leviim?


On Jun 21, 2017, at 6:52 PM, RC Klein <yeshivish@gmail.com> wrote:

My great-great-great-grandfather was Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein, who lived from 1830-1918. He was actually the rabbi of a small town near Munkatch called Davidkoff or Davidhaus (depending on if you are speaking Russian or Hungarian) and in his last years he was sick so he went to Vienna to consult with doctors, but ended up dying there (where he is buried). He was a student of the Chasam Sofer and the Maharam Ash and he authored the work Shenos Chaim (which is a commentary to Rabbeinu Yerucham). His eldest son, Binyamin Eliezer (for whom my eldest son is named) was my great-great-grandfather. I have an unkempt blog from the past decade+ of genealogy research, you might be able to find some information there: http://kleinfamilygenealogy.blogspot.com or you can try to connect with me on geni.com and we can share information. Looking forward to getting to know you better--cuz. ;)


Kol Tuv,

Reuven Chaim Klein

Beitar Illit, Israel

Check out my book Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew

Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew (Mosaica Press) on Amazon Academia.eduGoogle Scholar LinkedINRabbi Reuven Chaim Klein on TorahDownloads.com

 

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Rabbi Jacobs (Ohr Lagolah) <lagolah@ohr.edu> wrote:

please see below

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Rabbi Richard Jacobs
e: lagolah@ohr.edu
t: 972 (0)2 581 0315 x111
f: 972 (0)2 581 2890
w: www.ol.ohr.edu

 

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Klein, Joel <joel.klein@ppmamerica.com>
Date: 21 June 2017 at 20:12
Subject: Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein
To: "lagolah@ohr.edu" <lagolah@ohr.edu>
Cc: "Joel & Melinda (joelandmelinda@sbcglobal.net)" <joelandmelinda@sbcglobal.net>

Can you, please, have Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein contact me?

 

My name is Yoel Leib ben Reuven Chaim Klein and I have a question or two about his name.

 

Also, there was a Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein that lived in Vienna from 1830 to 1918.  I was wondering if this Rabbi knows about him.

 

If you need a reference, ask Rabbi Rockmill about me.

 

Joel Klein

Home: (773) 274-3789

Office (312) 634-2559

 

 


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Wednesday, June 21, 2017

Re: Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein

What is your connection to Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein that you mentioned who is buried in Vienna? As far as I know, he was not a Levite. You can see on his tombstone if you want, see https://www.geni.com/people/Rav-Reuven-Klein/6000000008827990400
You said your father's name is Reuven Chaim Klein, do you know what his father's name was and his father's name? Where did you father live? What makes you think you are a Levi? There are a lot of KLEIN families that are Leviim, but it doesn't seem that our family is one of them.

Kol Tuv,

Reuven Chaim Klein

Beitar Illit, Israel

Check out my book Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew

Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew (Mosaica Press) on Amazon Academia.eduGoogle Scholar LinkedINRabbi Reuven Chaim Klein on TorahDownloads.com


On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Joel & Melinda <joelandmelinda@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Ha = Happy.  A real connection!!  Cousins!!!

Alas, but it is not to be.  We are leviim.  Or so we believe. 

On Jun 21, 2017, at 8:22 PM, RC Klein <yeshivish@gmail.com> wrote:

What's the "Ha!!"?
As far as I know, we are not Leviim.

Kol Tuv,

Reuven Chaim Klein

Beitar Illit, Israel

Check out my book Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew

Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew (Mosaica Press) on Amazon Academia.eduGoogle Scholar LinkedINRabbi Reuven Chaim Klein on TorahDownloads.com


On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Joel & Melinda <joelandmelinda@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Ha!!!

Are you folks leviim?

On Jun 21, 2017, at 6:52 PM, RC Klein <yeshivish@gmail.com> wrote:

My great-great-great-grandfather was Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein, who lived from 1830-1918. He was actually the rabbi of a small town near Munkatch called Davidkoff or Davidhaus (depending on if you are speaking Russian or Hungarian) and in his last years he was sick so he went to Vienna to consult with doctors, but ended up dying there (where he is buried). He was a student of the Chasam Sofer and the Maharam Ash and he authored the work Shenos Chaim (which is a commentary to Rabbeinu Yerucham). His eldest son, Binyamin Eliezer (for whom my eldest son is named) was my great-great-grandfather. I have an unkempt blog from the past decade+ of genealogy research, you might be able to find some information there: http://kleinfamilygenealogy.blogspot.com or you can try to connect with me on geni.com and we can share information. Looking forward to getting to know you better--cuz. ;)

Kol Tuv,

Reuven Chaim Klein

Beitar Illit, Israel

Check out my book Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew

Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew (Mosaica Press) on Amazon Academia.eduGoogle Scholar LinkedINRabbi Reuven Chaim Klein on TorahDownloads.com


On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Rabbi Jacobs (Ohr Lagolah) <lagolah@ohr.edu> wrote:
please see below
---------------------
Rabbi Richard Jacobs
e: lagolah@ohr.edu
t: 972 (0)2 581 0315 x111
f: 972 (0)2 581 2890
w: www.ol.ohr.edu

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Klein, Joel <joel.klein@ppmamerica.com>
Date: 21 June 2017 at 20:12
Subject: Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein
To: "lagolah@ohr.edu" <lagolah@ohr.edu>
Cc: "Joel & Melinda (joelandmelinda@sbcglobal.net)" <joelandmelinda@sbcglobal.net>


Can you, please, have Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein contact me?

 

My name is Yoel Leib ben Reuven Chaim Klein and I have a question or two about his name.

 

Also, there was a Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein that lived in Vienna from 1830 to 1918.  I was wondering if this Rabbi knows about him.

 

If you need a reference, ask Rabbi Rockmill about me.

 

Joel Klein

Home: (773) 274-3789

Office (312) 634-2559

 

 


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Re: Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein

My great-great-great-grandfather was Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein, who lived from 1830-1918. He was actually the rabbi of a small town near Munkatch called Davidkoff or Davidhaus (depending on if you are speaking Russian or Hungarian) and in his last years he was sick so he went to Vienna to consult with doctors, but ended up dying there (where he is buried). He was a student of the Chasam Sofer and the Maharam Ash and he authored the work Shenos Chaim (which is a commentary to Rabbeinu Yerucham). His eldest son, Binyamin Eliezer (for whom my eldest son is named) was my great-great-grandfather. I have an unkempt blog from the past decade+ of genealogy research, you might be able to find some information there: http://kleinfamilygenealogy.blogspot.com or you can try to connect with me on geni.com and we can share information. Looking forward to getting to know you better--cuz. ;)

Kol Tuv,

Reuven Chaim Klein

Beitar Illit, Israel

Check out my book Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew

Lashon HaKodesh: History, Holiness, & Hebrew (Mosaica Press) on Amazon Academia.eduGoogle Scholar LinkedINRabbi Reuven Chaim Klein on TorahDownloads.com


On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Rabbi Jacobs (Ohr Lagolah) <lagolah@ohr.edu> wrote:
please see below
---------------------
Rabbi Richard Jacobs
e: lagolah@ohr.edu
t: 972 (0)2 581 0315 x111
f: 972 (0)2 581 2890
w: www.ol.ohr.edu

------------



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Klein, Joel <joel.klein@ppmamerica.com>
Date: 21 June 2017 at 20:12
Subject: Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein
To: "lagolah@ohr.edu" <lagolah@ohr.edu>
Cc: "Joel & Melinda (joelandmelinda@sbcglobal.net)" <joelandmelinda@sbcglobal.net>


Can you, please, have Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein contact me?

 

My name is Yoel Leib ben Reuven Chaim Klein and I have a question or two about his name.

 

Also, there was a Rabbi Reuven Chaim Klein that lived in Vienna from 1830 to 1918.  I was wondering if this Rabbi knows about him.

 

If you need a reference, ask Rabbi Rockmill about me.

 

Joel Klein

Home: (773) 274-3789

Office (312) 634-2559

 

 


This message is for the named person(s) use only and may contain confidential or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly use or disclose any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. PPM America, Inc., PPM Finance, Inc. and their subsidiaries and affiliates (collectively, PPM America or the Company) each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks and such communications may be retained and/or reviewed. Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. E-mail messages from PPM America employees and contractors are not binding contracts unless accompanied by hard-copy documents that have been executed by an approved signatory of the Company. PPM America does not guarantee that the integrity of this message has been maintained or that this message is free from viruses, interceptions or interference. The Company does not accept any liability for any errors or omissions arising as a result of this transmission.