Sunday, December 25, 2011

Re: ravsig digest: December 23, 2011

What you are trying to propose is impossible because Rabbi Yehoshua Heshel ben Yosef of Krakow lived in the late sixteenth century/early seventeenth century (see his wikipedia article). The Taz, Rabbi Dovid Segal HaLevi, also lived then (see here). It would thus be impossible for a descendant of the TaZ (at least four generations removed from him) to be the father of the Megini Shlomo who was a contrmporary of the TaZ.

A Lichtige Chanuka from Jerusalem,
RC Klein

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Josephine Levin <> wrote:
By Rabbi Yosef Charif do you mean the father of Rabbi Yehoshua Heshel ben Yosef of Krakow, the author of "Maginei Shlomo?" As far as I know he never signed as halevi or s'gal (segan leviim). If R. Yosef of Krakow was the son of R. Tzvi Hirsh S'gal Stern then R. Yehoshua Heshel would also have been a levi. Also charif was not his surname but a nickname - he was also called hatsoref. To my knowledge he did not have a surname. If he did I would like to know about it. I would also like to know if R. Yehoshua Heshel had a son named Efraim Fishel? Can anyone shed light on this? I am really searching for the name of the father of Rabbi Yosef of Krakow (a descendant of RASHI) and for descendants of R. Yehoshua Heshel ben Yosef.

RE: Rabbi Shmuel SEGAL HaLevi

I am also looking to find out about his son Rabbi Dovid SEGAL
STERN, who was the father of Rabbi Tzvi Hirsch SEGAL STERN
(Rov of Ambrova?), who was the father of Rabbi Yaakov HaLevi
LEITZAS (Rov of Wolbrom, and later Rosh Av Beis Din of Krakow)
and Rabbi Yosef CHARIF.

Chanukah Sameach from Yerushalayim,
Yosefa Levin

Re: Klein-Biederman

Nope sorry, there is not connection as far as I know.

A Freilichin Chanuka.

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Veronika Pachtinger <> wrote:

Sorry to trouble you, I noted that you are connrcted to " a" Klein Family

My Grandfather's  ( Hersl/Herman Biederman )   brother  Tobias/Tuvia Biederman's
wife was a Blanka Klein They lived in Papa Hungary, were deported and never returned

Blanka Klein's father was Solomon Klein . Solomon's Klein wife was a Nee Groszberger
from BIHARKERESZTES  in Hungary

Any connection?

Just for the record

Tuvia Biederman's parents were Moishe and Suri-Necha (  Sali )  Biederman/ Nee Wahl/Wohl

Moishe Biderman''s father was Mordechai Biderman
Sali Wahl/Wohl's father was Tuvia Wahl-----she had a brother Smuel Dovid Wahl
They are buried in Hanusovce Nad Topolu

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A Freiliche Chanukah